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Offline Gregdownunder

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borgeson or stock?
« on: May 26, 2020, 02:03:26 am »
I'm thinking of ordering in a Borgeson shaft.
The stock OEM shaft actually seems pretty good and tight, its a D150 2WD with 100K miles.
Question is, will I notice much improvement over the original if the original is in good order?
Most parts I need to order in from the USA.
Last order cost me $130 USD in shipping, which is over $200 local dollars so I like to make it worthwhile!
I would appreciate it if someone could give me the correct model number  I need for shaft and rag joint.
Normally I use LMC truck.
 '83 D150.

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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2020, 02:22:39 am »
    the wear point of stock shafts is the "coupler" AT the steering box . If you have one and it has NO perceptible play , a "borgeson" shaft will not fix it , its not broken .... some older trucks , like yours had a U joint there , my '82 had one .  Just check for play there , wiggle the steering wheel shaft just a few degrees , watch the input shaft of the "box" , or feel for slack in the coupler . If you find some then consider either a "borgeson" or installing a U joint . I have the correct yoke numbers that spline fit / intersect bolt clamp to the gear box , set screw to the steering wheel shaft , I then weld that yoke to shaft as well . Early models have a doubble d slip section which you retain , '92 newer , have a crumple zone in frame horn , and no slip section ..   no bragging rights though  . 
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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2020, 02:27:53 am »
    Thanks, its got the coupler.
    Does not seem to be any play in it.
    Just thought it might be a good thing to upgrade to,but if you say it wont make any difference to a coupler in good order I might not bother.
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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2020, 08:01:20 am »
    I may get flack for this but I have rebuilt the stock coupler on all but one of my trucks and I prefer it to the borgeson shaft.....I have never understood what keeps the borgeson shaft for slipping in on itself beside set screws...
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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2020, 08:58:27 am »
    personally l just get a u-joint for 1/4 of the price of a Borg

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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #5 on: May 26, 2020, 01:05:49 pm »
    For a 2WD, the stock joint works decently. The 4WDs are the ones that eat the stock joint like candy.

    As for the Borgeson shaft, it is superior to the stock shaft in all ways. The splines on the steering input keep it from slipping, just like the stock joint. The set screw is only there to prevent the joint from slipping off the input, which is very unlikely anyway.
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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #6 on: May 26, 2020, 03:34:24 pm »
    i have been temped to try and order one of these. they are a fraction of the cost of borgeson but i wonder how long it would last. i know you usually get what you pay for but tempting for the price.
    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Lower-Steering-Column-Shaft-For-Dodge-D-W-100-150-250-350-Pickup-Ramcharger/174155135715?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #7 on: May 26, 2020, 04:15:23 pm »
    assemble like you would a drive shaft phasing the rag joint and u joint in the same plane .
     shown is a '93 w 350 , obviously the spicer was made FOR steering . Takes a 100 series greaseable u joint .  Don't ask me prices , these came from a local drive shaft shop , ordered by numbers I selected from Spicer . I like the correct splines , the bolt that clamps and pins it so NO clearance to produce wear , my hands on the "other end" cannot break the weld/set "screw " and I can grease it / replace joint from a/p store . No clearance issues .
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    Re: borgeson or stock?
    « Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 07:36:06 am »
    i have been temped to try and order one of these. they are a fraction of the cost of borgeson but i wonder how long it would last. i know you usually get what you pay for but tempting for the price.
    I was cruisin around amazon the other day and noticed several borgeson knock offs including the one ya posted. It hits me as couldn't be more cheaply put together. Ya know, kinda like when ya buy a used truck and ya make a list of stuff you're taking off it before you even consider driving it.
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