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Re: Distributed Election Fraud
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2020, 06:14:43 pm »
I have posted two links to credible reports of how and why these voting machines and software were developed. Note that several other countries have had similar problems, I saw a video of a Professor who claimed a few years back that he could easily hack these machines and software, he even presented his findings to Congress.

  https://saraacarter.com/trumps-attorneys-battle-for-legitimate-votes-as-concern-mounts-over-dominion-voting-systems-smartmatic/

  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/15/sidney-powell-were-fixing-to-overturn-the-election-results-with-new-evidence-n2580118
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    « Reply #51 on: November 17, 2020, 06:17:41 pm »
    Hopefully Trump's attorneys are watching this thread.....it's a gold mine!
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    You're absolutely correct, Kendall. My mistake  ;D

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    « Reply #52 on: November 17, 2020, 06:42:48 pm »
    Here's another one, Sidney Powell is now helping with the Trump team also, she doesn't make idle statements using the facts to back up her allegations.
    There are many reports coming to light, 2,600 & 2,700 votes found so far that were not counted in Georgia and also another county is still processing what they believe to be un-counted legitimate votes.

      https://thenationalpulse.com/news/stats-reveal-stuffing-the-tail-scheme-similar-to-sub-prime-scheme/
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    « Reply #53 on: November 17, 2020, 06:44:47 pm »
    Hopefully Trump's attorneys are watching this thread.....it's a gold mine!

    Yeah Kendall, it won't be long now before Utah goes permanently blue but the good news is your esteemed Senator Pierre D. Romney ought to make a seamless transition to the Democratic Party.   :)
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    « Reply #56 on: November 17, 2020, 07:16:15 pm »
    Yes PowerWagonPete, a very interesting article linking CIA & FBI to using their special powers given them supposedly for the benefit of America but falling way short. Interesting that Chris Wray was kept out of the loop, he has to go, sooner than rather than later.
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    « Reply #57 on: November 17, 2020, 08:22:20 pm »
    Here is another good read to forward to Trumps lawyers. Like they say,it is not over until the fat lady sings.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/17/detroits-votes-might-not-count-after-all-and-that-would-be-a-win-for-the-trump-team-n2580272
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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #58 on: November 17, 2020, 09:26:17 pm »
    Who said "ALL"? I didn't say all.
    That said, the election result is evidence that the majority of mail in votes were for Biden.

    ALL of them for Biden? Thats the problem, a 4 AM ballot dump resulted in 100% Biden votes?? That's a statical impossibility! Even the most democrat county in PA, is split 95% for Biden to 5% for Trump. If it were legit, there would have to be some Trump votes even if it's just 1%, because it's impossible to believe that no Trump voters didn't vote via mail in ballot. -Or someone removed the Trump ballots, either which way you go, it compromises the vote, unless you can prove otherwise. BTW that pallet of ballots dropped in the AM was witnessed by some DEMOCRATS who have became whistleblowers!! (Thats part of the evidence coming) And BTW, why did they stop counting votes in the middle of the election???
     
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    Lol, do you know how stupid that is? ....you can't prove a negative. .....the onus does not fall on the other party asking for evidence of a claim.

    As mentioned, your argument 'Show us the evidence' didn't come from you. All you're doing is repeating the lying socialist narrative, as if somehow the question itself debunks any challenge. I'm not telling you 'to prove a negative', I'm telling you to check and verify the source, because the liberal media has been lying to you.

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    Nice cop out, you've buffered the question so no matter what source I provide, you will call it liberal propaganda simply because it proves you wrong.

    If the source is the media, it isn't trustworthy. Verify that the media is accurate. Don't just sit there and accept what they say as truth, simply because they say it is, simply because you agree. They are socialists and they are  liars and they are complicit.
     
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    Seriously though, to assume I did not come up with this myself is incredibly asinine and only serves as a distraction because you cannot provide evidence.

    And thats the real point, if the media (aka Ministry of Truth) doesn't report it, it doesn't exist. I'm certain, you didn't come up with it yourself. You are repeating what they told you. You believe no evidence exists and therefore no challenge can be made.... They are gonna be so surprised, and so will you.

    Some of the evidence? For one, mail in ballots happens to be evidence by itself! Get it? A Governor, a secretary of state, or Judge cannot create new (election) laws as it deems fit. It cannot say we will now allow mail in ballots just because they can. And it cannot say, we will count those ballots beyond the day prescribed by law, just because they deem it's fit. I don't care if you think mail in ballots will prevent the spread of Covid, or it's a great idea, or if everyone agrees to it. The laws are specific, and cannot be changed except as prescribed by law, and that my friend didn't happen.
    Here is an article explaining a similar situation in California;
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/11/14/judge-rules-newsoms-mail-ballot-order-was-illegal-n2580104

    (BTW if the article doesn't appear, get out of Google and use Duckduckgo)

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    Answer the question though, why haven't Trump's lawyers provided the evidence if it exists?

    If you go to the source, and not to the media, you'd see that examples of evidence is trickling out and much of it is damning, but if you're not following, and believing the liberal propaganda, on Jan 20th you'll be wondering why Trump is being sworn in again.
     
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    This has nothing to do with the discussion. Further, I certainly don't recall anyone "guaranteeing a big blue wave". Sounds like more drama queen nonsense from the non-thinking extreme right.
     

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/524796-so-much-for-the-blue-wave

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    Lol.....just keep telling yourself that trooper!

    Oh, I don't have to tell myself that, all I have to do is look, and see that many blue seats are now red.

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    Lol...it's like you are trying to prove my point!
    If there was widespread voter fraud...WHY THE FUCK WOULD REPUBS GAIN SEATS? Derp! Think about that for a minute. Also think back a few posts ago when I mentioned people like me....

    Simple! The Dems thought they didn't need to cheat down ticket...Maybe they believed their own flawed polls, dumb Schiffs!! Then theres another ballot anomaly, Why was a thousand ballots for Biden that showed up in the middle of the night had absolutely no down ticket votes?? Maybe because the cheats marking the tickets in Biden's favor didn't bother with down ticket votes in the short time they had. My proof? It's all part of the numerous bits of evidence but you'll just have to wait and see.

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    Ya know, I'd be happy to answer that question, but since you think you can make up the rules of discussion and tell me what I have to do or otherwise you will assume my answer....I'll just let you pretend you know...because again, this has nothing to do with who won this election.

    We all know what you're hiding, you just don't want to admit to it because you know I might slam you for it, but I bring it up because, yes it is part of the discussion and you are being suckered by the same people who support the things you try to hide. I also said that I'm hopeful that you'll see the truth, and leave that corrupt party and join us.

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    Oh yeah, one more time, why do you think Trump's attorneys aren't producing any of this evidence you claim is everywhere? You keep ignoring that. I think the count for Trump lawsuits getting thrown out is at about 20 so far....yeah, he's a shoe in for sure.  ::)

    It's getting out there, but you're ignoring it....Are you really looking chief? Because I see you're asking the liberal question but not looking for it yourself. All you're doing is accepting their narrative and nothing more. That is why you'll be stunned when the truth gets out.

    It would be nice if those 20 lawsuits weren't thrown out, but this is far from over. On Jan 20th Trump will be re-elected and much will be exposed. Watergate was child's play

    In retrospect, this video makes a lot more sense now, don't you think?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRZEs9BRGK4&feature=youtu.be

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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #59 on: November 17, 2020, 10:26:31 pm »
    I can assure you, with absolute certainty, I desire evidence all by myself. I don't have to have the media ask that question for me to ask that question. It is asinine that you keep claiming I am not capable of requiring evidence for a claim. Go read our past discussions on Climate Change and Evolution, you might note my continual request for evidence. At this point, you are just trolling with this nonsense.

    If there was evidence, Trump's attorneys would use it.....right?

    Time will tell.
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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #60 on: November 17, 2020, 10:31:46 pm »
    Yeah Kendall, it won't be long now before Utah goes permanently blue but the good news is your esteemed Senator Pierre D. Romney ought to make a seamless transition to the Democratic Party.   :)

    Doubtful....just yesterday our single democratic congressman (the incumbent) conceded the election to a republican. Yes, they have been counting since election day.....

    ...Say, wouldn't that mean this election was a fraud and illegal? 'cuz the democrat was ahead on election night. He should have declared himself the winner.
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    « Reply #61 on: November 17, 2020, 10:53:38 pm »
    Doubtful....just yesterday our single democratic congressman (the incumbent) conceded the election to a republican. Yes, they have been counting since election day.....

    ...Say, wouldn't that mean this election was a fraud and illegal? 'cuz the democrat was ahead on election night. He should have declared himself the winner.

    I don't know how you guys do things out there electionwise, Kendall, but congratulations to Mr. Owens for pulling out a squeaker.   {cool}

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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #63 on: November 19, 2020, 05:03:50 pm »
    Press conference. it's long, about an 1 and a half, but it is a must watch;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT-udMDpCtU&feature=emb_logo

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    « Reply #64 on: November 19, 2020, 09:39:03 pm »
    Press conference. it's long, about an 1 and a half, but it is a must watch;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT-udMDpCtU&feature=emb_logo

    The Ghoul was leaking some fluid there for a little while, Ed.  LOL   ;D
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    « Reply #65 on: November 20, 2020, 02:57:33 am »
    just because his hair dye was running down his cheeks , don't mean what he said was with out merit . he must be pretty old by now . Pretty cool how they can program in 1.5 v/s .750 votes for the person they want to "win"  2006? and "we" used that to "throw" elections in other country's to "seat " who "we" wanted . so we use it here ?

     yeah Rudy seems pissed that he can't seem to get these facts out to the public  , and he knows first hand how really corrupt , deep rooted,  things can be , so bad its "unbelievable "  In NYC he was in charge and didn't need public support to correct things folks would NOT have believed . I didn't "like" him , but when he was "done" he had accomplished stuff that was absolutely remarkable , " over-nite"   .

     all ya hafta do is be so blatantly obvious , no one believes what you did , and the key rule is denial . 
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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #66 on: November 21, 2020, 09:08:53 am »
    No Pete, fill me in. Not like you to with hold your opinion.

    You know, George, the Dems will never fess up about how they screwed Bernie over in the '16 and '20 primaries but if the Republicans openly admitted the obvious fraud conducted against Ron Paul in '08 and especially '12, that would go a long way toward bolstering Trump's case.

    Probably never happen, either.   {no}
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    « Reply #67 on: November 21, 2020, 09:38:06 am »
    Voter fraud is rampant!  >:(

    Yes it is, Tony.   :(
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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #68 on: November 21, 2020, 04:59:42 pm »
    Voter fraud is rampant, it is a matter of being able to prove it.
    The democraps have had 4 years to 'cook-up' a scheme for the 2020 elections. The Chinese Wuhan Virus became a gift for them so they then pushed hard for mail-in votes knowing that with their lax standards regarding authenticating the validity of the voter opened up many possibilities for them.
    One that hasn't received much attention is that at least one large batch of votes appear to be on different paper/color to the normal votes that came in. Did the democraps have a printing machine tucked away somewhere?
    Until Dominion will allow inspectors to check their voting machines and the software these machines will always be suspect, remember that back in 2016 many voters complained that when entering their Republican vote it registered democraps. It is one thing to say that only a handful of votes were effected but the evidence trickling out shows otherwise. It is now a wait and see, keep praying.
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    « Reply #69 on: November 22, 2020, 12:25:15 pm »
     ;D
    democrap and manipublican, a country divide by ''who/what do you trust''
    This is only me, but it seeems that there is a lot of emotion talking, barely reasoning talking.

    I guess that if a population of a country are without faith in the system (election, politic, media, fake news, etc.), It may be a path to revolution. Could become Republic of Gilead in the future. Hope not.

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    « Reply #70 on: November 22, 2020, 12:48:29 pm »
    Yes, I have talked to a lot from both sides that think our system is rigged, but not provable. We need reforms, but since the handling of the elections are left up to the individual states, it will not likely ever happen.
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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #71 on: November 24, 2020, 09:44:16 am »
    Here's another one, Sidney Powell is now helping with the Trump team also, she doesn't make idle statements using the facts to back up her allegations.
    There are many reports coming to light, 2,600 & 2,700 votes found so far that were not counted in Georgia and also another county is still processing what they believe to be un-counted legitimate votes.

      https://thenationalpulse.com/news/stats-reveal-stuffing-the-tail-scheme-similar-to-sub-prime-scheme/

    Hmmm, it seems Sidney's baseless claims and conspiracy theories were so bad....Trump et al fired her and claimed she was never really on the legal team! Lol! 
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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #72 on: November 24, 2020, 06:40:53 pm »
    You are very good at miss leading and miss reporting facts, why did you add a reference to my post that I didn't post?  I will add the correct link again for you to read...

       https://thepostmillennial.com/sidney-powell-alleges-voter-fraud-with-affidavit-statements-from-smartmatic-whistleblower
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    « Reply #73 on: November 25, 2020, 09:33:08 am »
    YO, HO, HO!!!  Perhaps I'll release some myself today...   8)
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    « Reply #74 on: November 25, 2020, 10:19:02 am »
    You are very good at miss leading and miss reporting facts, why did you add a reference to my post that I didn't post?  I will add the correct link again for you to read...

       https://thepostmillennial.com/sidney-powell-alleges-voter-fraud-with-affidavit-statements-from-smartmatic-whistleblower

    Uhm....I quoted your post, you posted what I quoted above. Go look for yourself, post #52.  ::) ::)

    And there is nothing misleading nor any misreporting in my post. She is no longer on the team, the "team" falsely claims she was never part of the team. Her batshit crazy conspiracy theories were apparently too much for the batshit crazy "leagal team".
    I mean, if you don't believe that she was removed.....I can provide a link.  ::)
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    « Reply #75 on: November 25, 2020, 10:26:31 am »
    YO, HO, HO!!!  Perhaps I'll release some myself today...   8)

    and darn it....she was removed before she could release the Kraken!
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    « Reply #76 on: November 25, 2020, 10:29:02 am »
    YO, HO, HO!!!  Perhaps I'll release some myself today...   8)


    Kraken is a Cyber warfare program?

    https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/22/sidney-powells-kraken-is-dod-cyber-warfare-program-we-are-at-war/

    Hmmm, maybe something to this.
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    « Reply #77 on: November 25, 2020, 10:38:33 am »
    Wow, I can smell the tinfoil through the internet.
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    « Reply #78 on: November 25, 2020, 10:47:38 am »
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    « Reply #79 on: November 25, 2020, 10:59:15 am »
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    You're absolutely correct, Kendall. My mistake  ;D

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    « Reply #80 on: November 25, 2020, 11:19:02 am »
    I patiently await the verifiable evidence.  ;)

    Maybe this will help;

    https://hereistheevidence.com/

    PS, give it some time to upload.

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    Re: Distributed Election Fraud
    « Reply #81 on: November 25, 2020, 11:24:09 am »
    Well, we shall see if a crowdsourcing tool holds up in court.
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    « Reply #82 on: November 25, 2020, 11:31:01 am »
    Well, we shall see if a crowdsourcing tool holds up in court.

    ...A crowdsourcing tool for organizing anomalies and legal issues...

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    « Reply #83 on: November 25, 2020, 11:50:43 am »
    HMMMM, by the time this is all said and done, Trump may be considered one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, President in American history...  LOL   ;D
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    « Reply #84 on: November 25, 2020, 12:14:19 pm »
    YO, HO, HO!!!  Perhaps I'll release some myself today...   8)

    Ha ha Ha I just cracked a bottle of that 10 mins ago!

    Has anyone seen people magazine? The cover is "it's time to unite" with brainless and ho ho on the cover!  {flame}

    Yeah ok for the last 4 years every tv channel, newspaper, mag and dem website has crucified Trump. NOW they want to unify? F-you dirt bags!

    WHY would you print that when the truth and a final decision has not been made?  {flame}

    HMMMM, by the time this is all said and done, Trump may be considered one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, President in American history...  LOL   ;D

    I certanly hope so...............

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    « Reply #85 on: November 25, 2020, 03:14:07 pm »
    Which is exactly what the State owned media SHOULD be saying instead of slandering the alleged evidence. Of course all they report is what the totalitarian regime tells them to.

    Uhm, it's not the media that is throwing out the cases.....it's the courts. Have you seen how some of these cases have gone down?
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    « Reply #86 on: November 25, 2020, 03:51:56 pm »
    votes don't go up by thousands , 100% in one persons favor , and the same number in different county's , at the same time ..............   unless .............
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    « Reply #87 on: November 25, 2020, 04:11:05 pm »
    What I was getting at, was the media needs to do their job and report the facts instead of slander. The media is nothing but tabloids now.

    You're not confusing late night talk show hosts with the media are you?

    I will add, even Fox news is starting to challenge the accusations, hell, even Tucker Carlson called out Sidney Powell on her baseless conspiracy theories....TUCKER CARLSON! You know its bad if he's not drinking the right wing koolaid.
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    « Reply #88 on: November 25, 2020, 04:58:26 pm »
    In Pennsylvania, approximately 700,000 more mail-in ballots were received than sent out.   {lol}

    The state Senate majority is now in favor of voiding the results.   :)
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    « Reply #89 on: November 25, 2020, 06:07:16 pm »
    But just like other elections, the ballots have been separated from the envelopes, so no court will step in and change any results. The best they will do is agree smelly stuff happened, but we cannot make it right.

    That press conference that Guliani and crew did the other week. I caught the last half on the radio, and thought they did a pretty good job of presenting discrepancies to the world. But when I found out later they started the whole thing by saying Trump won by a landslide, and we can prove it.", I knew it was all lost. If they had started out saying we uncovered these discrepancies, and think they need to be investigated, regardless of who wins, they may have kept more news stations tuned in.
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    « Reply #90 on: November 25, 2020, 07:54:47 pm »
    But just like other elections, the ballots have been separated from the envelopes, so no court will step in and change any results. The best they will do is agree smelly stuff happened, but we cannot make it right.

    Of course the court can step in, George. But you have to understand that "it" was never right to begin with. Laws were broken and courts exist to resolve these disputes. Thats why Trump is rightfully taking it to the courts. The court can certainly order any and all illegal ballots to not be counted. As of this post, a PA judge has blocked further election certification.

     
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    Whats wrong with saying that Trump won by a landslide, especially when it's true? (Did the democrats have a winning hand with "Defund the police"?? OR ANTIFA burning down half of Seattle?) Trump was ahead in PA by over 800K votes, until 4AM, when suddenly votes began showing up by the pallet full on trucks, which just so happened to close the gap and give Biden a "win". Why is it that dead people always vote Democrat? Could it be that dead people prefer the Democrat's healthcare policies?? It ain't over! Not by a mile! Trump won on election night. The liars had planned to steal this election since at least a year ago, and it will be proven and President Trump will be re-elected.

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    « Reply #91 on: November 25, 2020, 08:50:48 pm »
    t.

    That press conference that Guliani and crew did the other week. I caught the last half on the radio, and thought they did a pretty good job of presenting discrepancies to the world. But when I found out later they started the whole thing by saying Trump won by a landslide, and we can prove it.", I knew it was all lost. If they had started out saying we uncovered these discrepancies, and think they need to be investigated, regardless of who wins, they may have kept more news stations tuned in.
    They were after the public's attention. A salesman does not even get his foot in the door, if he slams and locks it first.

    Of course the court can step in, George. But you have to understand that "it" was never right to begin with. Laws were broken and courts exist to resolve these disputes. Thats why Trump is rightfully taking it to the courts. The court can certainly order any and all illegal ballots to not be counted. As of this post, a PA judge has blocked further election certification.
    Yes, they can. But do you see any fighting to hear any of these cases?

    The Lawyers blew it by trying to invalidate whole precincts & counties.  Without proof of widespread fraud, no judge will toss out 1000's of votes. Like a wrecking crew coming to your house, and saying we have these reports of termites, so we need to tear down your house.  Ain't going to happen without further investigations. Like I said, they should have gone at the angle of this needs to be investigated, for the good of the Nation, and future election integrity.

    The republicans were not prepared to monitor, and contest any of the voting. Especially in the areas they knew would be hot spots. They knew the mass media was going  to be out in force to make them look bad, and they put on a comedy show.

    The vote monitors should have bee trained, and every one should have had a number to call when they see something. Yes, In some place they were, but most Trump just said to the voters to go out and watch the polling. Why not have a National voter fraud hotline? or even a statewide one? But no, they left it up to the voters to try to get a local news station to listen, then days later some of those were contacted for affidavits. By then, the evidence was gone, or too late to fix.

    I lost count, how many claims did Guialliani make that he had proof of a major crime in the last few years? IIRC, it has got to be close to a dozen. How many ever materialized?  Zero. 

    I voted for Trump twice, but have to agree, he did make quite a comedy show, and turned off a lot of folks around the world. Yes, the media was against him, but he did do a lot of dumb shit.

    Do I think biden got 70 million votes? hell no, but the proof is gone. it was a small window of opportunity, and is now closed. We need to push for changes to make the next election more open, and trustworthy.
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    « Reply #92 on: November 25, 2020, 11:41:45 pm »
    Yes, they can. But do you see any fighting to hear any of these cases?

    Remember that this is just beginning and we aren't going to win every case. There are still a bunch of Obama appointed judges who are as invested in a Biden victory as the rest of the deep state. And keep in mind that SCOTUS have been divided by region, ready to hear each case according to state

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    And how do you suppose that can happen? Theres very little time so the strategy has to conform to the rules of engagement. Some Lawyers will try to invalidate whole precincts, some will work on smaller details, while others work on bigger issues. Guliani appears to be making precision strikes on very particular targets, while someone like Sidney Powell is going for the tactical nuke. No plan of attack appears to be off the table....

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    The republicans were not prepared to monitor, and contest any of the voting. Especially in the areas they knew would be hot spots. They knew the mass media was going  to be out in force to make them look bad, and they put on a comedy show.

    I can understand your frustration, because I am just as frustrated. There are many things we aren't privy to. There are things we don't know. But, knowing this, we don't know whats going on behind the scenes. I'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate for a moment. I have no proof or evidence. All I can claim is a bit of logic based on what we assume to know. As president of the United States, I don't think President Trump could not have had no knowledge about this attempted theft of an election beforehand, not when the CIA, FBI, NSA and every other three letter govt organization reports to the president. So lets assume the president knew that the election was going to be stolen. Who else would know? Well, the thieves would know. And the thieves know that Trump has access to intelligence. So we could probably conclude that the "victim" and the "culprit" knew that there would be fraud. The culprits probably wouldn't care because the problem for the "victim" would be proving it. So if you're Donald Trump and you knew that the election was going to be stolen, what could you do?

    Well I was researching a few days ago and came across a small tidbit of information. Nothing of major importance by itself but it might explain whats happening behind the scenes. There is some speculation that Trump has read and studied Art of War by Sun Tzu. Being in the military, you know that this book is required reading by officers and leadership positions. This book is also required reading by many business executives. Interestingly Trump's book "Art of the Deal" seems to possess some parallels to "The Art of War"

    Here is an excerpt from Art of War;
     "All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."

    If you've noticed, Trump has been unusually quiet lately, I believe there is a plan in motion but we can't know yet what it is. Trump seems disorganized or is it deception?
    What we do know is this election was stolen and it's obvious to everyone, including the ones who stole it. We know that laws were broken. Constitutional laws were broken and when this is over and Trump is re-elected, it's going to be real hard to just let it go. What the media isn't saying is, theres a lot of pissed off Americans. Have you seen the grass roots organizing going on? The protests that organically sprouted up out of no where? During the days and weeks leading up to Nov 3rd, people supporting the president began to chant something I never heard before and I've been following politics for a few decades. They chanted "We Love You" to a president! No this isn't over and it's not going away that easily.

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    « Reply #93 on: November 26, 2020, 12:25:33 am »
    Yes, I may be wrong, but doubt it. I say they will not change, or prove fraud in more then 1000 votes nationwide. Very few courts will get involved in elections. The people have been conned into believing that the majority want demoncraps. The real battle in in the court of public opinion.

    The voting machine companies, and election officials are all saying their stuff has been thoroughly vetted, and there is no way the software can make changes, as the vote is cast, and a hard copy ballot is printed. What they do not say is the hard copy is printed in the corner, and the actual voter cannot verify it printed what they voted. The people will believe the officials, over some lawyer that seems to have lost her brain, led by another one time great lawyer/mayor/ attorney general, who now has shown himself to the public as a lost drunk, chasing every whack theory, and running with it without verifying anything.  Again, the battle now is in the court of public opinion.

    Too many mid level govt workers especially in the law enforcement/intelligence areas, that are democraps, or owe the democraps. Trump went in with little help from the republicans, and did not have a good transition, and it went down hill from there. The demoncats have always been better funded, and lead (behind the scenes pulling strings). This whole election cycle did not feel right from the getgo, from the demoncat primaries, bidens bunker campaigning, to the mail in ballots. Somebody pulled off a big theft.

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    folks speak of "hard copy" being printed , here the "machine " you feed your "ballot" into , simply lights up, says something to the effect of O.K. ,  if your vote was "accepted" . don't say who it registered your vote "for" .
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    « Reply #95 on: November 26, 2020, 08:45:11 am »
    Yes, I may be wrong, but doubt it. I say they will not change, or prove fraud in more then 1000 votes nationwide.

    As mentioned, nothing is off the table. Certain aspects of the election are being challenged. And at the end of the day fraud will be shown to have effected way more than 1000 votes... Heck! There were far more than 1000 votes cast by dead people during this election.

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    That is probably true, especially in courts that have Obama appointed judges in democrat controlled cities and states. But this isn't going away and courts will have to get involved, including the highest court in the land. And that my friend is where it will all ultimately go. Because we all know that the liberal controlled courts are all invested in a Biden victory.

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    No one has been conned. I wasn't conned and I know you haven't been conned. And the world hasn't been conned. Not even the Democrats. They knew they weren't going to win, and they were desperate. Thats why they rigged this election. Do you think anyone believes that Joe Biden (and his corrupt Son) could outperform Obama's second election and Trump's first election, while hiding in his basement? Very few believe the liars in the media who still continue to peddle the con that the majority wanted a Biden victory. They are invested in a Biden victory.

    The real battle is not in the court of public opinion. Thats a con too! The media wants control of that narrative, which means they can win in the court of public opinion. This is a dangerous thing because if they lose the election (and they will) you can bet that ANTIFA and BLM will go out in force and riot in every major city, burning down everything in their path.   

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    The voting machine companies, and election officials are all saying their stuff has been thoroughly vetted, and there is no way the software can make changes, as the vote is cast, and a hard copy ballot is printed. What they do not say is the hard copy is printed in the corner, and the actual voter cannot verify it printed what they voted.

    Again, I have no proof or evidence, but to apply some Mr Spock. If the President has access to certain intelligence, he may use it to validate or prove any of his claims via his attorneys. So what if "Kraken" (link in a previous post) is a DOD cyber warfare program developed by our own Spooks and can acquire evidence of fraud, by hacking the very same vote machines? Well we don't really know if it's true but it seems funny that when Dominion officials were expected to testify in a hearing, they all seemed to bolt and scrubbed their facebook accounts. And whose this guy Eric Croomer, who works for Dominion and why does he have ties to ANTIFA?? Is it coincidence that a few months ago Donald Trump signed an executive order recognizing ANTIFA as a terrorist organization?   

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    If we do not win, it is game over. There will be no republican party to reform in 2024.... Don't you see? If the Democrats get away with this election fraud, they will have proven that the tools they used to win, works and they will use it again and no one could stop it. Mid terms? You can expect massive republican losses, then they will proceed to pack the courts, add more states to strengthen their majority in the senate and socialism will become a reality. This my friend is our last stand. If we don't win, we will never win again. This is a life and death struggle and we must win. It's not over!

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    young children would "solve" the problem very simply . I'm betting a do-over would be their answer ......
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    « Reply #97 on: November 26, 2020, 09:12:15 am »
    If we do not win, it is game over. There will be no republican party to reform in 2024.... Don't you see? If the Democrats get away with this election fraud, they will have proven that the tools they used to win, works and they will use it again and no one could stop it. Mid terms? You can expect massive republican losses, then they will proceed to pack the courts, add more states to strengthen their majority in the senate and socialism will become a reality. This my friend is our last stand. If we don't win, we will never win again. This is a life and death struggle and we must win. It's not over!

    Yeah Ed, we'll see how many Trump voters there really were once they round us all up.   ;)
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    young children would "solve" the problem very simply . I'm betting a do-over would be their answer ......

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    « Reply #99 on: November 26, 2020, 10:03:51 am »
    Yeah Ed, we'll see how many Trump voters there really were once they round us all up.   ;)

    Yup, and it's called the Trump Accountability Project.... Kinda sounds like the same ol political purge the Nazis made popular in the late 30s.

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