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RJ2013 location Discussion
« on: January 20, 2013, 04:10:36 am »
These are the places so far nominated for RJ 2013. 

I closed the thread one day early.  It's been a long week.  If anyone wants to nominate another location, you have until midnight tonight.  Do so here.

We will have a ONE WEEK period of discussion.  This will not be the time to VOTE.  This will be the time to DISCUSS the MERITS and the FAULTS of the locations we have nominated.  The goal here is to help develop informed voters.

Shiloh Ridge, Alto, Texas
Hidden Falls, Marble Falls, Texas
Rock Run Recreation Area, Patton, PA
General Sam's, Huntsville, TX
Rausch Creek, Pine Grove, PA


After the discussion period we will vote.  I will close this discussion thread on midnight January 27th.

I would also like to have some discussion on the length of time that the voting should be open as well as the merits of the locations.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 07:58:31 am »
    I don't have a vote yet.  :P I've only ever been to Raush Creek so I'm not much help as to what the places are like.

    Plus, if it's close we can go if it's not, then we can't.  ;)
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 09:21:20 am »
    General Sams Off Road     http://www.generalsams.com/

    I have been here a number of times with a bunch of our group.  This is a place that we have never failed to have a good time.  It has several advantages:
        It is close to my house.
        It has mud pits and lots of trails through the pine trees
        It has decent restrooms
        The mud will wash off

    However, I think its lack of hills and rocks would make some of our group wish we were elsewhere.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 11:12:46 am »
    Shilo or General Sams are close enough for me to make easily.... Both are great places... Over all I do vote General Sams because of the washable mud.....
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 02:07:47 pm »
    Shiloh Ridge Off Road     http://shilohridge.com/

    Shiloh Ridge is at Alto, Texas.  It has mud pits, hills but not a lot of rocks.  It did have a rock garden when I was there last and it managed to total my transfer case.  I will always have a skid plate in the future.

    They have a considerable amount of trails and some decent hills.

    One plus for Shiloh Ridge is the truck rodeo events.  If we have enough trucks they have the mud pit, drag race, barrel race, snake pit and timed trail run.

    The one drawback as most of us see it is the fact that the mud is virtually impossible to remove from your vehicle.  After spending much time there, you need to remove brake drums, clean rotor cooling fins and in the end you will still have a red powder coated exhaust.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 02:15:20 pm »
    I have only been to Hidden Falls, and there was almost 0 mud there. Lots of Hills and rocks which where fun though.

    I am open to whatever as long as it has some decent place for the fam to sleep (wife does not like tents)

    I am not sure how big I am on red mud that becomes one with the truck, but we do need some fun hills to go on.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 05:37:09 pm »
    Hidden Falls Adventure Park     http://hiddenfallsadventurepark.com/

    Hidden Falls is near Marble Falls, Texas.  A few of us have been there often in the last few years.  There are many trials with lots of hills, lots of rocks and very little mud.  However, when it rains the difficulty of the trails is multiplied.  It is slicker than snot on a glass door knob.

    There are a multitude of camping facilities there, ranging from primitive to house for rent.  They let us do our own competition events last year.

    The trails go from dirt roads to impossible trails and everyone should be able to find a number of trails to keep them occupied.

    There were some Toyota group guys that had some difficulty with having to repair some fence that they damaged.  I didn't see the damage they did, but I did meet some of the guys.  They were crazier than we were.

    There are a lot of other things available at Hidden Falls, including paintball, ATV rental, possible horse rental, gun range and they do have ice on the premises.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 12:00:12 am »
    Step up here folk.  This is the time to convince us which one of these locations is the place for RJ 2013.  If you don't give us your input, a few of us will make decisions without knowing how everyone feels.  We got into that situation last year because we picked a time that the TEXAS kids were out of school and others were unable to attend because their kids were still in school.  We discussed that item but no one outside of TX had any input.

    We are not choosing a date this week but location is at least as important and without more information we make decisions on what little we have.

    I understand that location is important.  It is unlikely that I could attend if we choose PA for the site.  It's not impossible though.  There's only a few more days before we end up with a vote on location.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 03:10:22 am »
    I'm game for General Sam's or Shiloh.  Gen. Sam's is closer but I looked at their site and kinda concerned about the wet  T-shirt strip off.  Some of us plan to take our wife and kids.  Is this a regular occurence?  Shiloh looks more interesting of the 2 and a little farther but do-able. 

    Next year, I'm nominating Big Bend National/state Park.

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 07:30:15 am »
    ive been to Raush Creek last spring which is NOT close by me but would love to go again. they have primitive camping on site with firepits and picnic tables available. there seems to be a wide array of trails from nice rock gardens, hill climbs, and mud. the weekend i went they had a WEROCK (i believe it was werock) competition going on which was incredibly awesome to watch in the spare time.

    Rock Run ive never been to but nominated it solely based on the feedback and pictures site member "Josh" had posted. it looks like an interesting place to explore and again is NOT close to me. but i have a dodge, will travel  ;D
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 08:46:25 am »
    I like what I seen on Rausch Creek's website.  I realize that our places in Texas are a long ways from where some of us live.  However, Rausch Creek is 1,540 miles from my house.  Hidden Falls is 158 miles and Shiloh Ridge is 121 miles. 

    In the long run, we need to pick the location that will allow us to have the largest attendance possible.  I wish we all lived in the same trailer park.

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #11 on: January 22, 2013, 11:46:28 am »
    from what i've seen hidden falls looks interesting.  i like more technical type crawling/hill climbs than mudding and blazing through trails and it sounds like some of the TX venues lack that.  rausch creek sounds good to me and would be more climate friendly in the summer.

    economics is killing the possibility of a big RCC turnout.
    if there was something in western TN or AR that would be middle ground for the northeast and TX contingency.

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 06:54:51 pm »

      I wish we all lived in the same trailer park.

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #13 on: January 22, 2013, 10:42:33 pm »
    {gloating}

    That is most of the reason for the CTD conversion in the crew cab so I can pull the trailer with the rig and still haul the family.  :-\

    better put the coal to the mob car project then.  :P

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #14 on: January 23, 2013, 04:55:14 pm »
    better put the coal to the mob car project then.  :P

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #15 on: January 24, 2013, 02:32:31 am »
    if there was something in western TN or AR that would be middle ground for the northeast and TX contingency.


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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #16 on: January 24, 2013, 10:16:04 am »
    appears to be a little bigger than "gulches" in sc, which is 80 acres.  similar layout - big access loop with a bunch of short trails/climbs/obstacles.  arkansas has some really cool geology/features - alot of limestone/sandstone.  plus good smallmouth fishing in most of the rivers.  ;D

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #17 on: January 24, 2013, 12:03:26 pm »
    Remember that we should be discussing the places already nominated. We had two weeks to nominate locations.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #18 on: January 24, 2013, 01:29:23 pm »
    i nominate Rausch Creek  ;D
    it was in Texas last year.

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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #19 on: January 24, 2013, 01:48:18 pm »
    Besides picking a location, you need to look at who can plan, coordinate, and set up the gathering. I know you all want to pick an area near you, so you can attend, but if there is nobody that can/will step up and do the preliminary work, it will be no more then a gathering. Inevitably, the economy, gas prices, and many other factors clash at the wrong time, and many folks plans fall apart, and they cannot make the trip.

    With all that said. I have to say that Texas has consistently held the best RamJams (except for RJ-1).


    Unless you are realistically positive you can make a location, do not vote for it. I know, its easy this time of year to say I can make it, but look carefully before you vote, and set up a location for a failure.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #20 on: January 24, 2013, 02:04:26 pm »
    excellent points George.
    i'll make Rausch creek if it's there.
    if it was at Uwharrie in NC, i'd be glad to head it up and i have some experience organizing functions.
    my second vote would be for Hidden Falls - if it's there i will make an honest attempt.  ;D
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #21 on: January 24, 2013, 02:26:04 pm »
    Here is google map links for each location, you can click on them, the add your zip code in the directions, and see how far they are for you. May not be the exact location, but it is close enough.

    Shiloh Ridge, Alto, Texas
    Hidden Falls, Marble Falls, Texas
    Rock Run Recreation Area, Patton, PA
    General Sam's, Huntsville, TX
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #22 on: January 24, 2013, 02:33:50 pm »
    Here is a map of the locations, sorry I do not know how to add labels. I play later, and seee if I can do better.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #23 on: January 24, 2013, 07:43:28 pm »
    Wow... there's a whole lot of states between us fellas.   :(
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #24 on: January 24, 2013, 09:39:11 pm »
    Wow... there's a whole lot of states between us fellas.   :(

    Yep.  And, it's ever farther than the road from Texarkana to El Paso...

    But, since are discussing the merits of the locations, the Texas locations are considerably closer to those in the central and western parts of the US.  I know that we are a long ways from the guys in Canada and those on the coasts, either one of them, but I think we have proven that we will try to make a good atmosphere for the event.  I wish we could draw more of our members but in reality, where ever it is held, a bunch of people will not be able to attend.  I don't see that changing.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #25 on: January 26, 2013, 09:20:31 am »
    After tomorrow it will be time to vote on a location.  How long should I leave it up for voting?  Personally I think a week is long enough.

    Any other opinions?
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 12:41:26 am »
    Ryan just posted these up tonight on http://ramcharger.net/

    Most of these were on the Bronco Buster trail at Hidden Falls.  The last 2 were going up to the overlook. 
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 05:58:59 pm »
    Im going to vote for 1. Shiloh Ridge. The long time owner Tommy passed away last night. They have always treated us very good. I would be comfortable with Gen. Sams as well.
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    Re: RJ2013 location Discussion
    « Reply #28 on: January 27, 2013, 10:50:08 pm »
    I'm with Skips vote.  Alto first. I wouldn't mind a rematch in the truck rodeo events..lol My new engine is definetly better than the one I used at RJ 09'. General SAMs is my second vote. Prayers out to Tommy's family!!
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