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1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
« on: October 9, 2017, 09:11:13 pm »
1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
I just bought this 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab this weekend. It is a factory 400 4 speed. The body is in good shape for a mid-west truck. It does not run and needs a bunch of things and a lot of work. The first thing was to get it running if possible. I was hoping for a drivable project truck. But, 3 of the 5 tires and wheels donít hold air. I cannot have a derelict truck sitting on flat tires. It needs to be at least movable. So, the first priority is to fix the tires and wheels. Five Firestone 9.50R16.5 are on order. Here are pics of the truck.
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Take Care, John
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #1 on: October 9, 2017, 09:13:58 pm »
    The truck is on the lift. Next up, remove the wheels, and dismount the tires.
    Feedback welcome.
    Take Care, John
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #2 on: October 9, 2017, 10:16:58 pm »
    I have owned 2 club cab 4x4's.... a 78 W200 with 400/727/203 Dana 60F, that was green like yours....and a 79 W200 with 318/435/203 Dana 60F

    I love club cab W200's, and even better that you got a 4 speed.

    Feedbag: Lose those wheelwell flare thingys.....getting it running shouldn't be hard but plan on doing some wiring, they all need it.

    Also grease the front bearings & go over the brakes & all fluids. How long has it set up?

    You did good!

    Bucky
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #3 on: October 9, 2017, 10:48:07 pm »
    Nice.
    I'd think the truck would go faster and get better gas mileage if the rear bumper fell off. ;D
    I know it would look a lot better.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #4 on: October 9, 2017, 11:00:45 pm »
    Nice.
    I'd think the truck would go faster and get better gas mileage if the rear bumper fell off. ;D
    I know it would look a lot better.
    Yea, but if they have drivers like around here, and along the East coast, the truck will last longer. I've been rear ended at stop lights more times then I can remember. Especially in Pa, they like to just put salt down at the intersection, so the vehicles after the first will skid on the snow & ice covered roads.
    77 W200, 360/727/NP203/D44HD/D60 (Wifes Toy)
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 04:58:20 pm »
    The rear bumper and fender flares have to go amongst other things. But, those 2 things have to go! They are soaking in Kroil as we speak. Iím looking for an OEM bumper but might go with a Westin / Fey 21000. If anyone has this bumper please post pics of it on the truck and pics of the brackets you used to attach it.

    It has been sitting for years. History according to the seller: Seller bought from original owner (I am the third owner). Seller owned for about 2 years. Seller said previous owner had blown the engine and then parked it. Seller said he and his son got it running just after they bought it 2 years ago, but it ďsoundedĒ bad and ran reel rough and smoking oil and the smell of coolant coming out of the exhaust. The radiator appears to be in good shape but was dry when I checked it. Seller said he did no work to the truck. Someone (original owner?) replaced the 2bbl carb and intake with a 1968/69 4bbl intake and aftermarket Holley carb. Someone (original owner?) replaced the single exhaust with dual exhaust and glass packs. There is no battery, so I donít even know if the lights work. I have a lot of work in front of me. And yes, brakes are on the list.

    Pulled the wheels off and dismounted the tires. The wheels are at the blaster. When I get them back, they will be primed with SEM self-etching primer and painted.

    In the mean time I will drain the oil and inspect the oil filter. The bore scope for my phone arrived today. Once that is up and running I can inspect the cylinders.

    As a side note. Iím looking at a parts truck. Will the pop out Club Cab windows fit my fixed window Club Cab? See pics.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 06:11:36 pm »
    I think this tire has a few miles left on it, but Iím replacing it anyway. One of the tires had an inner tube in it. It was also one that did not hold air. Slime anyone? Does anyone have 16.5 x 6.75 wheels with this date code stamping they would be willing to part with?
    « Last Edit: October 11, 2017, 03:47:34 pm by 1778ppr »
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 08:01:16 pm »
    The pop-out rear windows were introduced I think in 79. I believe they will fit the fixed window opening, not 100%.

    I have some 16.5" wheels, but not sure of date & being in Texas are probably not practical for you.

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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 08:26:38 pm »
    I know the holes for the hinge, and latch are not there on my 77. I know on my van, the latches have specific indented spots, besides the holes. I think that would be the issue, the holes can be drilled, but the flat spot might be tough. If you track down some windows, take tons of pics of the frame around the windows on the donor truck. Also, comparing to my van, I think the window opening in the body is the same, just different gasket.

    Short answer, unless someone else has more info, I think they could work with possible minor body work.

    Could your windows be made to work? I don't think so, I would bet the pop out windows are about 1/2" bigger in size. Besides the hard part of drilling holes.
    77 W200, 360/727/NP203/D44HD/D60 (Wifes Toy)
    77 M887- 318/727/NP203 D44HD/D60
    78/86 Ramcharger.  360/727/NP203 D44/9&1/4
    85/89/90 D150/W250 5.9TBI/435/241 D44HD/D60HD
    85 W350 360/727/241 D44HD/D60
    97 B3500 5.9MPFI/518 D60HD
    20 Pacifica Hybrid, 3.6 V6, EVT 1 speed trans.
    projects:
    85 Country Coach RV, 5.9 Cummins/TH475,GV od,US gear Exhaust brake,D70HD (4 wheel disk brakes, 10 lug 19.5 rims.

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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 09:14:06 pm »
    Those are the questions. Is it just pulling the parts and seals off a donor truck and installing them? Is the window opening the same? Will the seals fit? Is it just minor hole drilling to install the hinges and latches? Or is the cab sheet metal different? I was thinking the same thing. It looks like it should work. If I buy the parts truck Iíll find out and report back. Itís just that a parts truck would be more valuable if I knew those parts would work.

    Bucky, I think you maybe too far away. But, if you get a chance take a look at what you have. At least I would know where to find them/one if you have them/one. Itís not a priority right now.

    Thanks, John
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 09:53:04 pm »
    If someone with popout windows, could take some pics of the inside sheet metal, and measure the glass, we would get a better idea.
    77 W200, 360/727/NP203/D44HD/D60 (Wifes Toy)
    77 M887- 318/727/NP203 D44HD/D60
    78/86 Ramcharger.  360/727/NP203 D44/9&1/4
    85/89/90 D150/W250 5.9TBI/435/241 D44HD/D60HD
    85 W350 360/727/241 D44HD/D60
    97 B3500 5.9MPFI/518 D60HD
    20 Pacifica Hybrid, 3.6 V6, EVT 1 speed trans.
    projects:
    85 Country Coach RV, 5.9 Cummins/TH475,GV od,US gear Exhaust brake,D70HD (4 wheel disk brakes, 10 lug 19.5 rims.

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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 03:52:45 pm »
    It doesnít look good. Bad news, 2-1/2 gallons of water and oil came out of oil pan. I did put the bore scope up the oil pan drain hole. It looks like the pistons are forged TRW. Iíd bet they were originally cast pistons. So it looks like someone has already worked on this engine. In any case I will have to go through the engine. If Iím lucky it may just be a head gasket that wasnít installed right. With my luck it will be a cracked block. I have not cut open the filter yet. It is still draining. But, sludge came out when I removed the filter.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 08:22:44 am »
    Awesome project. Somebody a few years ago gave me a set of the pop out club cab windows. I was excited at first until I got home and looked to see if they would fit. No dice. IIRC there is a mounting spot on the later cabs for the latch. Nothing on the older ones like ours. I wasn't even aware the later ones came with them until somebody asked if I wanted a set.

    Are you trying to be period correct with the 16.5 rims? I'd ditch them and at least go with 16s. Much easier to find tires. Hell even 16s are getting harder to find anymore.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #13 on: October 16, 2017, 04:39:28 pm »
    Removed that boat anchor rear bumper. Do any of you have the Westin Fey 21000 chrome step bumper? Iím thinking about buying that bumper.

    Got the wheels back form the blaster. Next up prep, prime, and paint the wheels.

    Ragman, I have five 16.5 x 6.75 wheels all together that came on the truck. Three of the wheels that came on the truck are date stamped ď76 A 21Ē as shown above. I believe those to be the original wheels. If I could get 2 more correct date stamp wheels that would be great. Iím just working with what I have. I already bought 5 new Firestone 9.50 x 16.50 tires. Once the wheels a prepped, primed, and painted, on go the new tires. I see what you mean about tire availability for 16.5 wheels.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 05:40:45 am »
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #15 on: October 17, 2017, 10:55:15 am »
    Good progress on getting that bumper off. I bet the rear springs are thanking you.

    I agree on the wheels, if you got new tires why not use them. Years ago I hunted forever to find a set of the stock steel wheels in a 16.5 x 9.75 size. I finally found a set and that was about the time tire manufacturers quit making the 16.5s. Now the rims are just sitting in the corner of the garage collecting dust. I thought of buying a set of the 37in 16.5 military Goodyears they used on Hummers but they wouldn't fit on my truck with out a decent lift. I'm to old for big lift kits. lol
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #16 on: January 27, 2018, 07:52:24 pm »
    Finally got back to doing a little work on the truck. Just wheels and tires. I have been mostly working on my shop. After the wheels were sand blasted I tried to wash the blasting dust off them and they flash rusted. I used Ospho to remove the flash rust. Then I primed with SEM self-etching primer, followed by Rust oleum Almond. Mounting the tires and valve stems wasnít too difficult, but the non-safety rims kept me from getting the beads to seal. Finally broke down and took them to a tire shop and had them balanced while they were there. So, the Firestone Transforce 9.50R16.5 are mounted and holding air so far.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #17 on: March 6, 2018, 09:54:28 pm »
    Whatís wrong with ďthatĒ picture?

    Finally getting back to working on my Power Wagon. I was working on my shop and now the shop is mostly done.

    Took the valve cover off and discovered a broken valve. Took the head off and you can see the rest. So, now out comes the motor. Do I need to remove the transmission and transfer case? Or can I support them? The FSM recommends removing the transmission.

    Iíve got 2 other 1978 400 truck motors. I will rebuild one of those. Both are stuck so freeing them up will be the first priority.

    Take Care, John
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #18 on: March 7, 2018, 02:28:50 pm »
    Do I need to remove the transmission and transfer case? Or can I support them? The FSM recommends removing the transmission.



    Take Care, John
    I've Mickey Moused a 2x4 straddling the back side top of the front leaf springs. Then rested the trans bellhousing bottom on that.
    It work quite well. Allowing me to move the truck around if I needed to.
    You may need to do something different with the thickness of wood because of different suspension lift than what I'm running.
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    Re: 1976 W200 Power Wagon Club Cab
    « Reply #19 on: March 7, 2018, 07:56:45 pm »
    ^^^ I have done something like this too. It allows you to roll the truck around.

    Bucky
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