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Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
« Reply #200 on: January 8, 2020, 10:05:38 am »
when some one tells you a motor has 220 pounds compression , something is wrong , either the story teller , or the motor . Even 180 is high today .

I agree 100%.  Im happy with 160!
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #201 on: January 8, 2020, 08:49:55 pm »
    when some one tells you a motor has 220 pounds compression , something is wrong , either the story teller , or the motor . Even 180 is high today .
    Indeed.
    My engine is at 180 and I'm running aluminum heads with "reverse dome" (dished) pistons.
    220 is race gas territory. 
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #202 on: January 8, 2020, 11:43:25 pm »
    It is a pretty high number. Conditions were perfect for it, though. Oil in the cylinders, all spark plugs were pulled, no accessories or even a clutch for the starter to rotate cause the engine was on a stand. I believe the guy was telling the truth. It's possible his compression tester was off some but even so I'd say the motor is in pretty good shape looking at it.

    I reckon we'll see when I get the heads mounted up. Worse comes to worse I can pull the good crank out of this motor and throw it in my original motor which has new rings in it. I'll update as this story progresses, as always.
    « Last Edit: January 8, 2020, 11:45:21 pm by Alex_M »
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #203 on: January 9, 2020, 05:37:00 pm »
    It is a pretty high number. Conditions were perfect for it, though. Oil in the cylinders, all spark plugs were pulled, no accessories or even a clutch for the starter to rotate cause the engine was on a stand. I believe the guy was telling the truth. It's possible his compression tester was off some but even so I'd say the motor is in pretty good shape looking at it.

    I reckon we'll see when I get the heads mounted up. Worse comes to worse I can pull the good crank out of this motor and throw it in my original motor which has new rings in it. I'll update as this story progresses, as always.
    To get 220 with those flat top pistons, the heads would have to have a very small quench area.
    And I've never seen small block Mopars with THAT small of a quench area.
    Now if those pistons had a dome... yes.
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #204 on: January 9, 2020, 05:52:23 pm »
    hey .....  it was the perfect conditions  thats all .  ::)  bull shit floats under those ....  ;D
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #205 on: January 9, 2020, 11:13:22 pm »
    Yeah, pistons are slightly domed. Not sure if they come proud of the bore or not, but they are not just a flat top. Hopefully I'll get it on the stand over the weekend and I'll be able to get a better view of what I'm looking at.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #206 on: January 10, 2020, 11:02:42 pm »
    Yeah, pistons are slightly domed. Not sure if they come proud of the bore or not, but they are not just a flat top. Hopefully I'll get it on the stand over the weekend and I'll be able to get a better view of what I'm looking at.
    With open chambered heads, domed pistons to get that kind of cylinder pressure would look like these... https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ros-99626/overview/make/dodge
    And they would be terrible for street use.
    You'd need some really high octane fuel to make them work right.
    Been there...
    « Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 11:04:43 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #207 on: January 11, 2020, 08:58:39 am »
    All right, I got the engine up on the stand last night and started looking her over with some good light.



    First things first, the pistons are not in fact domed. I was incorrect on that. They are factory flat tops. I mistook the beveled edge for being domed, but when compared with the other motor they are nearly identical.

    With that out of the way, the bearings in this thing look nearly perfect[. I completely believe the 40psi oil pressure. The crank journals look perfect, the cam bearings look perfect, and there's no sludge buildup anywhere





    As for the bore, 6 cylinders look beautiful. I definitely feel they would be strong runners. Two of the cylinders do not. There is some pitting I missed upon first inspection that won't hone out even if I threw rings in. Must've sat with some water in it. Cylinders #1 and #8. Forgot to get a picture of the bad holes, but here's one of the good ones.



    So, with all that in mind my plan is this; I'm going to yank this good crank and throw it in my original block that's been honed and has new rings. I think that will probably be the best plan. That engine isn't in perfect shape, there are a couple straight up and down scores that wouldn't home out, but I feel like it'll be ok. It was running good without burning oil before.

    I do have a bearing question for those of you with more experience; I bought a new set of Sealed Power bearings a few months ago when I was working on the original motor. When I went to install them in the rods and caps it seemed like they didn't have any retention, and a couple of them came proud of the caps. Did I get a bad set of bearings? I'm thinking about taking them back to advance and having them replace the set. They would not clip in like the stock ones for anything. Let me know what y'all think about that.

    All in all, for $100 I still feel like this was fair. A good crank is $150+ and I got a good core on top of that, ready to be bored 60 over, zero decked, and a big lopey cam for some old car (got my eyes on a '73 charger at some point...)

    Thanks for following along and all your help, fellas.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #208 on: February 4, 2020, 08:51:37 am »
    No more progress has been made on the motor yet. I've been working on other vehicles. Got the wife's Land Rover running again and been prepping the Tahoe to sell. I did finally received the final rim for my set, however. Can't wait to get these last two mounted.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #209 on: February 7, 2020, 02:36:06 pm »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #210 on: February 25, 2020, 08:12:08 pm »
    I've done very little of anything to the truck this month. Honestly I've hardly even driven it until today and tomorrow while I'm hauling some 4x8 sheets of paneling. That said, a couple things have happened. Today I went to AutoZone and ordered a new ignition lock cylinder for the steering column I've had sitting in the shop for a couple months, and I cleaned out to bed. And by cleaned out I mean sorted half a dozen items and shoveled the rest into the grass to be dealt with in the spring... None the less, that's "done". It sits almost 2" higher in the rear now, got some rake back in it which is nice. Still running well other than blowing all the oil out the dipstick tube and past the rings

    Oh, that's the other thing! I need to go pick up the bearings I've got for the motor in the shop. Hopefully I'll get on that soon, too. Time is less since I've started a new job and they've told me I can work as many hours as I want these first couple weeks. Shooting for 70, get that overtime.

    Anywho, that's all that has happened here. Can't wait for spring to make some real progress again on the body work and suspension work.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #211 on: February 26, 2020, 03:12:23 pm »
    Hope to see pics when you get those rims mounted.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #212 on: February 26, 2020, 10:08:01 pm »
    Certainly will. Also got my ignition lock today, so I'll probably get that thrown in Saturday.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #213 on: February 27, 2020, 10:53:36 pm »
    I just read this hole theard. Thanks for posting all this. I like these "driver" type projects. Keep it coming and keep on trucking.
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #214 on: March 1, 2020, 06:58:57 pm »
    Glad youve enjoyed it!

    Got the switch out in the manual trans steering column and the column swapped today. Steering wheel is finally straight, and it's nice to have a key instead of sticking your finger back inside the column. Looks nicer too. Put a little paint on the column before I threw it back in.

    The tach did have to move. The new placement is not likely to be permanent. I'd like to get the volt meter and water temp removed from the factory cluster and get the tach in its place. I debated on moving the other gauges in today, but opted against it. Been taking it slow today since it's an off day. I pulled a 70 this week and probably will again next. Beautiful day outside though. 56 degrees and sunny.

    Moving forward as always. Hopefully I'll get the wheels mounted in a couple weeks.

    (Pictures being slow to upload, but I'll get them up)
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus (aka Blue Two-legger)
    « Reply #215 on: March 3, 2020, 09:14:12 am »
    Old column coming out. Is there some trick to this I don't know? I had to bend the shift lever arm (in the engine bay) back towards the column to make it all fit thru the hole.



    Painted up the new. I forgot to mention, I also removed the steering wheel lock while I had the column open to change the lock cylinder. I also should have painted it another 3 or 4 inches down the column. Have a little unpainted section showing at the top.



    Got the new installed. Looking good.



    Had to move the tach cause the manual column has the collar you have to rotate to remove the key. Eventually I plan to move it into the instrument cluster in place of the left portion of the cluster (voltage and water temp). Surprisingly I actually like it pretty well where I've got it now. I might would leave it if it weren't in the way of the park brake release, for whenever I get the park brake working.


    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #216 on: March 4, 2020, 03:38:00 pm »
    Finally got the crank dropped into my engine. These rod bearings seem to be cutting in the rods much better.  That was a hand full with the pistons already being in. And I took no risks this time. I taped the ends of the rod studs.

    I also used some tape to hold the rods up so I could work them into the journals as I dropped the crank in.



    And them I finally got my wideband O2 installed today. I confirmed a lean spot at light throttle, between 16.5 and 18:1. Cruising was pretty close in the mid 13s. WOT was extremely rich. Pegged the gauge in second gear, 10:1 in third, just shy of 11:1 in 4th. I'm thinking I'll lean both the primaries and secondaries out a couple jets. Not really sure what to do about that lean spot at light throttle, though. Thoughts?





    Also wired in for easy removal. I intend to use it across all my vehicles.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #217 on: March 4, 2020, 04:18:18 pm »

    And them I finally got my wideband O2 installed today. I confirmed a lean spot at light throttle, between 16.5 and 18:1. Cruising was pretty close in the mid 13s. WOT was extremely rich. Pegged the gauge in second gear, 10:1 in third, just shy of 11:1 in 4th. I'm thinking I'll lean both the primaries and secondaries out a couple jets. Not really sure what to do about that lean spot at light throttle, though. Thoughts?


    Remind what carb your running again.
    If it's a Holley... I can help.
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #218 on: March 4, 2020, 04:48:08 pm »
    ok. NEXT time you assemble a bottom end ..... install the crank ,install main caps , torque the mains , one at a time , between each turn the crank , is  it still  free? then place short chunks of rubber hose over rod bolts , install pistons with upper bearing halves in place .  always put oil on bearings + rings
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    93w250LB51844/60posi 318"New Truck"
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #219 on: March 4, 2020, 10:35:40 pm »
    Yep, dual feed Holley, vacuum secondary. Thanks Kurt

    That's how I did it the first time, but I didn't want to have to re-install the pistons just to replace the crank. Next go around I may change my mind.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #220 on: March 5, 2020, 12:59:48 am »
    I have installed "new" reground crank shaft , and had them be "bent" when you tighten any 1 main it turns freely , tighten them all and its almost LOCKED up , with same bearings and a different crank , turns freely , crank miked correct......it would have run , but lost a main bearing very soon . you can't detect that with pistons in place .
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #221 on: March 5, 2020, 12:27:29 pm »
    Yep, dual feed Holley, vacuum secondary. Thanks Kurt


    Okay... here's what I covered in my truck story a couple of years back...
    https://ramchargercentral.com/mopar-trucks/my-'74-power-wagon-i-ordered-from-dodge-on-873/msg3372090/#msg3372090
    That article I mentioned in the April 2018 Mopar Muscle "Climbing the Hemi Mountain", was the enlightenment of my carb tuning.
    I ended up getting these pills...
    They helped a lot for the best tuning.
    If you want, I could get a photo shot of that article and post it here. There's no link around of it anywhere.
    Here's what I have as my jet chart...

                                                     Jet Sizes
                                   
                                                     Idle Air Bleeds (Tip- In)

                                                         Jet Sizes     Drill Size
                                     lean                                 51 ....... stock
                                                                            52                               
                                                                            53    winter jets
                                                       .055               54                          IDLE-
                                                       .054                                  * Idle Mixture Screws
                                                       .053                                  * Idle Fuel Restrictors
                                                       .052               55       
                                                       .051                                            Tip-In-
                                                       .050                                   * Idle Air Bleeds                       
                                                       .049
                                                       .048               56              Cruise Below 2,500 RPM-
                                                       .047                                      * Idle Mixture Screws       
                                                       .046                                      * Idle Fuel Restrictors                                           
                                     rich             .045                             
                                                                                                             
                                                                                              Cruise Above 2,500 RPM-
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    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #222 on: March 5, 2020, 04:15:33 pm »
    That's wonderfully helpful! Thank you for that! And yes, I would love a picture of that article if it wasn't much trouble.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #223 on: March 6, 2020, 08:59:54 am »
    Well one of the rear brakes locked up on the wife's daily yesterday, so shes back in the Silverado and I'm back in the Dodge. I drove it to work this morning and it ran great down the interstate after the jet change last night. 60s in the front, 64s in the rear. Brought cruise at 75 right down to 14.5:1. However, when I got off the interstate the idle circuit had gone full lean. Pegged the gauge at 19:1 and the engine died. Started pumping the gas just to get to work. It had idled fine at home, actually a little rich at 12:1. Guess we'll see when I get out of work this afternoon what the deal is. Any clues would be appreciated.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #224 on: March 6, 2020, 04:50:21 pm »
    That's wonderfully helpful! Thank you for that! And yes, I would love a picture of that article if it wasn't much trouble.
    Gimme a day to get that going.
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #225 on: March 7, 2020, 07:24:52 am »
    \ell oessed with the idle screws some yesterday and finally got it to juuuust barely idle sometimes at like 400 rpm, with the idle screws a full 3 turns out. Sensor still said.dead lean sou thinking is it's idling on 4 cylinders due to a blocked passage in the idle circuit. So I pull the carb and tear it apart to clean it out and rebuild it, but I found a couple stripped out screw holes, so now I'm going to have to order a helicoil kit before this carb can run again.

    In the mean time, I need the truck so I'm gonna have to find a carb to run. Debating between trying to find a used one or just going to Auto zone and biting the bullet on a new one. More to come.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #226 on: March 7, 2020, 10:33:21 am »
    \ell oessed with the idle screws some yesterday and finally got it to juuuust barely idle sometimes at like 400 rpm, with the idle screws a full 3 turns out. Sensor still said.dead lean sou thinking is it's idling on 4 cylinders due to a blocked passage in the idle circuit. So I pull the carb and tear it apart to clean it out and rebuild it, but I found a couple stripped out screw holes, so now I'm going to have to order a helicoil kit before this carb can run again.

    In the mean time, I need the truck so I'm gonna have to find a carb to run. Debating between trying to find a used one or just going to Auto zone and biting the bullet on a new one. More to come.


    Challenging work space there Alex.
    All that takes is a little fumble and it'll be screws and jets flying everywhere.  ;D
    When I work on my carbs... I clear a big area just in case... 
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #227 on: March 7, 2020, 06:35:06 pm »
    Yeah, I realized I should've definitely cleared more space once I got into it! Usually I'd just do things like this out on the tailgate, but it was cold and dark last night.

    The continuation of this story is that I almost found a used carb, but the only local buddy I had that would have one was out of town. I went back to AutoZone and they actually price matched the refurbished unit on the Holley website at $249.99. Not too bad, that's $100 off their price.

    I immediately leaned it out 2 jet sizes and dropped it on the truck. Lo and behold, cruising around town at around 14.5:1 and on the interstate at 13.5:1,  no lean stumble anywhere, it's the best the truck has ever run. I really wonder if the 650 I have been running was injured in some way, in need of a rebuild anyway.

    I'll still rebuild the 650 and set it on the shelf. No need to swap back since this one is running so well. I will have to figure something out with the air cleaner, however. My "customized" air cleaner won't fit over this carb wince the float adjustments are in a different place. Had to swap back to my spare drop filter.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    « Reply #228 on: March 10, 2020, 09:35:03 am »
    Yeah, I realized I should've definitely cleared more space once I got into it! Usually I'd just do things like this out on the tailgate, but it was cold and dark last night.

    The continuation of this story is that I almost found a used carb, but the only local buddy I had that would have one was out of town. I went back to AutoZone and they actually price matched the refurbished unit on the Holley website at $249.99. Not too bad, that's $100 off their price.

    I immediately leaned it out 2 jet sizes and dropped it on the truck. Lo and behold, cruising around town at around 14.5:1 and on the interstate at 13.5:1,  no lean stumble anywhere, it's the best the truck has ever run. I really wonder if the 650 I have been running was injured in some way, in need of a rebuild anyway.

    I'll still rebuild the 650 and set it on the shelf. No need to swap back since this one is running so well. I will have to figure something out with the air cleaner, however. My "customized" air cleaner won't fit over this carb wince the float adjustments are in a different place. Had to swap back to my spare drop filter.


    Cool!
    I've been working on posting that article on tuning Holley's.
    Hopefully today sometime.
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #229 on: March 10, 2020, 10:26:56 am »
    Thanks Kurt!

    All right, fellas. I've got an engine building question. I worked on getting my motor back together more last night. I've run into the same issue I did last time with the other crank. Keep in mind, I have replaced the crank as well as the rod bearings (again). When I torqued down the #2 rod cap, totally locked up. I loosened it back off a hair and it will spin again.

    Now the odd part is that I had the same issue on #3, but only the second time i did it. The first time I torqued #3 down I only used gear oil and it still spun. When I took the cap back off and added grease around the crank journal, then it locked back up. When I loosened it off just a hair the assembly would spin once again.

    So here is my question; I assume I need to pull these two out and measure to see if they're out of round. If they are, can I put the used rods/pistons from the other motor I have sitting (also stock bore) into this block? I feel like the answer is yes, with new rings, but I want to make sure that there is no problem with using used pistons in another block.

    Any other recommendations are greatly appreciated.

    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #230 on: March 10, 2020, 11:13:47 am »
    Do you have telescoping bore mic and OD mic?
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    « Reply #231 on: March 10, 2020, 12:33:00 pm »
    yes , after checking the bearing tangs to be sure you have them in place correctly , you CAN swap rods/ pistons . I prefer to do it in sets , some rods are a tad different in weights , however the cheap mass engine rebuilders often have a basket of rods etc and just assemble engines from the pile of parts .   I would suggest taking all an engines rod/piston assembly's to a machine shop and have them check the "round" of all of them , with a Sunnen honeing machine's dial bore gauge after they torque the rod bolts in a rod clamp .  YOU can borrow a micrometer and check the journals of the crank your self . 
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    91 w250 318 518 44/60 single 9 foot driveway plow locked
    87w150 44/corp727 kandy w/ ghost bats/summer
    86-D/W100 44/corp/318mag/carb/4500/aka shit box/winter
    93w150short/44/corp/360/le/mag "caddie"
    93w250LB51844/60posi 318"New Truck"
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #232 on: March 10, 2020, 01:52:13 pm »
    Thanks Kurt!

    All right, fellas. I've got an engine building question. I worked on getting my motor back together more last night. I've run into the same issue I did last time with the other crank. Keep in mind, I have replaced the crank as well as the rod bearings (again). When I torqued down the #2 rod cap, totally locked up. I loosened it back off a hair and it will spin again.

    Now the odd part is that I had the same issue on #3, but only the second time i did it. The first time I torqued #3 down I only used gear oil and it still spun. When I took the cap back off and added grease around the crank journal, then it locked back up. When I loosened it off just a hair the assembly would spin once again.

    So here is my question; I assume I need to pull these two out and measure to see if they're out of round. If they are, can I put the used rods/pistons from the other motor I have sitting (also stock bore) into this block? I feel like the answer is yes, with new rings, but I want to make sure that there is no problem with using used pistons in another block.

    Any other recommendations are greatly appreciated.



    Ive been following along this whole build, and I think its great how far youve come with this truck, given the amount of time youve spent on engines and havent got real far I have to ask....have you given any thought to picking up a running LA that is known good and dropping it in?  Or even a good used mag motor....I got my 360 mag for $450, cleaned it up, put an eddy intake and carb on, used all my LA accesories, just a suggestion....but then again some people just love to tinker lol
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    « Reply #233 on: March 10, 2020, 02:01:44 pm »
    he's diving in and learnin I commend him ....
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    86-D/W100 44/corp/318mag/carb/4500/aka shit box/winter
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #234 on: March 10, 2020, 06:25:12 pm »
    Unfortunately, if I find that they're out of round, I'll probably swap all 8. The other set I have are from an earlier motor and the pistons are just slightly different, so probably swap the lot to be safe as far as keeping equal compression goes.

    I do have a mic set, so the crank journals will be no problem. I am going to do an initial test on the rods with just a dial caliper to see if there's anything glaring, then if all seems in order I'll try to find a buddy with a dial bore gauge. I have one friend I think might have one.

    yes , after checking the bearing tangs to be sure you have them in place correctly , you CAN swap rods/ pistons . I prefer to do it in sets , some rods are a tad different in weights , however the cheap mass engine rebuilders often have a basket of rods etc and just assemble engines from the pile of parts .   I would suggest taking all an engines rod/piston assembly's to a machine shop and have them check the "round" of all of them , with a Sunnen honeing machine's dial bore gauge after they torque the rod bolts in a rod clamp .  YOU can borrow a micrometer and check the journals of the crank your self .
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #235 on: March 10, 2020, 06:31:54 pm »
    I've definitely got a lot of months towards it, but really not that many hours. Since I've had the truck back running I've probably only had about 4 hours in the original motor pictured above, including the crank pulled from another motor and what knot.

    And honestly that's what the motor that's in the truck currently was supposed to be, but that turned out to only have 105# compression, warm. I've theoretically got the parts to have an almost new motor once back together, so I really just don't want to get burned on another used motor. I really want 150-160# of compression back, and on all 8 this time instead of on 6 like it was when I pulled the original motor from the truck.

    I'll get there eventually. For the time being the motor in the truck is running fine. Just all kinds of blow by and oil usage. Nothing I can't deal with.

    Ive been following along this whole build, and I think its great how far youve come with this truck, given the amount of time youve spent on engines and havent got real far I have to ask....have you given any thought to picking up a running LA that is known good and dropping it in?  Or even a good used mag motor....I got my 360 mag for $450, cleaned it up, put an eddy intake and carb on, used all my LA accesories, just a suggestion....but then again some people just love to tinker lol
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #236 on: March 10, 2020, 06:33:11 pm »
    Thanks brother. It's a learning experience. Goodness knows I'll be better at it next time.

    he's diving in and learnin I commend him ....
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #237 on: March 11, 2020, 12:18:40 am »
    some fellas start with "good" stuff and use that to learn on . I started with stuff other's threw away , 25 dollar cars driven in the woods , farm fields , myself and "friends" would buy or get free , we'd try to make them run better for NO money . We were only 10 12 years old ... 

     yeah a scrap car was only worth 15-20 dollars then , even a straight 8 Pontiac was only 22.50 over the scales . Still quite a few beers tho ...
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    91 w250 318 518 44/60 single 9 foot driveway plow locked
    87w150 44/corp727 kandy w/ ghost bats/summer
    86-D/W100 44/corp/318mag/carb/4500/aka shit box/winter
    93w150short/44/corp/360/le/mag "caddie"
    93w250LB51844/60posi 318"New Truck"
    93w350 6 tire CC 60 c/a flat bed dump

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #238 on: March 11, 2020, 07:58:51 am »
    That's awesome, the world has certainly changed. At 17 I didn't even know how to change spark plugs, my parents were never in to cars so I was never taught till I just jumped in and did it myself. It's one of my greatest joys now.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    « Reply #239 on: March 11, 2020, 09:36:56 am »
    he's diving in and learnin I commend him ....

    Oh dont get me wrong I commend him for that as well, I just didnt know what he was looking for as far as drivability/dependability.  In my experience you cant mix a bunch of used parts together and come out with an engine that will last long.  Thats basically what all the major rebuilders do these days, and nothing they build lasts very long.  Im not criticizing, just tossing it out there.
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    « Reply #240 on: March 11, 2020, 11:04:28 am »
    yepper I got that , and I bet he did as well no worries ... I grew up on a farm , had little to NO "extra"  money , we were driving stuff before we could reach "the pedals" and sometimes were too light to step them down with out standing UP ( think tractor ) all that is illegal today , has been for years ....
     pop helped me "rebuild " ( re-ring lap valves new bearings ) my first complete rebuild at 15 ( my road car for next year ) we stripped that Y block(272Ford) down while in the car , and the old man lifted that "short block" outta there with his hands crank.pistons and all  :o    I put some 2 bys across the garage and used my older cousins 1 1/2 ton chain come along to put it back in  watching the 2 bys bend all to hell and prayin .. it ran well , a black 2 door " Ford ranch wagon " 3 on the tree for 2 months till it got a T10 4 speed , brand new found it in the woods ! o.k......  it was in a new upside down car when I found it ......flash bulbs all around it (old camera )
    7th grade metal shop teacher got in trouble because I brought a V/W floor pan to school ( in the trunk of pops car)to shorten and weld "officials" said it was an auto teach said it was just a metal pan LOL dune buggy 14" removed no body tho $$$$ nope by 11th grade the auto shop teach was gonna teach me how to do a tune up, I wanted to build a stroker I did NOT take auto shop ....... guy couldn't make it as a mechanic so he taught auto shop.... LOL  My kids school broke up the lathes , milling machines, drill press's and put the pieces in the dumpster , called the class "technology" NO LIE , talk about a sin .... too old to sell they said ... yeah changed allright ........pissed me right off I moved the family outta there .

     I still have the come along cuz left it to me  ;D still gets used .... only less now .. 
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    91 w250 318 518 44/60 single 9 foot driveway plow locked
    87w150 44/corp727 kandy w/ ghost bats/summer
    86-D/W100 44/corp/318mag/carb/4500/aka shit box/winter
    93w150short/44/corp/360/le/mag "caddie"
    93w250LB51844/60posi 318"New Truck"
    93w350 6 tire CC 60 c/a flat bed dump

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #241 on: March 13, 2020, 07:40:36 pm »
    Absolutely no offense was taken on my part. No worries there.

    Got all my new air cleaner parts in yesterday. 2" riser, flat base, and a sticker for the top. Ended up taking the old chrome top, sanding and painting, and putting the sticker on that. It wouldn't cover the Edelbrock logo on the one I had been using. Looks nice and works great. Believe it or not, I actually did see a change in AFR.

    I also finally got my two rims mounted up today, so all four match now. Super happy to have that done. They look great. I'm gonna have to get a set of the chrome lug nuts for the other side now, too, after seeing how good they look. I can not wait to jump into the body work. It is just about warm enough.

    And finally... Raced a late model Dodge dart from a red light to 60 and kept up all the way. Not too bad! I was impressed, I figured old Lazarus was slower  We were door to door the whole way. Wife was in the passengers seat hooting the whole way, having a ball.





    « Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 07:44:49 pm by Alex_M »
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #242 on: March 14, 2020, 08:12:07 am »
    Hey shes looking good!  Im really considering doing the white roof on mine when its time for paint.  I think the white will cut down on condensation forming inside the roof panels which Im convinced is what rotted my black one.  Gets hot in the sun all day then cools at night forming moisture in the layers.
    1985 W250, 318, 435, 208, 44/60
    1991 W350, 360, 435, 205, 60/70
    1991 D250, 360, 518, 60

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #243 on: March 14, 2020, 08:37:52 am »
    Thanks! I don't know about condensation, but the white did cut down on cabin temps in the summer. I am seriously considering going back with it when I paint the truck.

    Still debating on colors. I'm definitely doing a single stage paint to save cost. It's a driver, not a show truck. I do think I want a metallic flake in it, like the factory job. I plan to stick with blue, but I haven't nailed down which blue yet.

    I've also considered instead of a pure white on the roof, doing an off white or ivory color. It would match the factory rims better if I ever run them again, which I think they'd look really good with some tall/skinny mud tires that might be the off roading setup. I've got three sets of rims for this thing. Probably have agressive muds on the steelies, the A/Ts on the Mickey Thompson's on it now, and maybe a highway tire on the 15" dish mags for road tripping. Or put the dish mags on that other W150 short bed I've been eyeing in the junk yard ..
    « Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 08:41:14 am by Alex_M »
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #244 on: March 14, 2020, 08:45:19 am »
    I run 255/85/16 on my factory steelies, I dig the tall skinny look.....I always try to keep repaints the same (close) color that way I dont have to do the engine compartment and door jambs
    1985 W250, 318, 435, 208, 44/60
    1991 W350, 360, 435, 205, 60/70
    1991 D250, 360, 518, 60

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #245 on: March 15, 2020, 02:08:58 pm »
    Yeah, I've always loved the tall skinny look. Even on newer trucks. Super wide just doesn't do it for me as much.

    That is my debate with the paint. Engine bay, jams, interior are not going to get painted either way. I will probably end up going pretty close to the factory color, but there's a part of me that really wants to go for a lighter blue despite the mismatch that will occur. Time will tell.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #246 on: March 15, 2020, 06:34:56 pm »
    Wheels look great Alex.  If I had that truck I wouldn't even paint it, I'm liking the look, but hey, if the wife's gonna ride in it then yeh, needs paint, don't want to embarrass the bride.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #247 on: March 15, 2020, 07:07:00 pm »
    That's wonderfully helpful! Thank you for that! And yes, I would love a picture of that article if it wasn't much trouble.
    Alex! I haven't forgotten... I've ended up typing it all out. After trying to make it look right by photoing it. Then Pixalmating it together. That looked like crap. ;D  I learned a lot about using Pixalmater though.
    Maybe tomorrow I'll finish it.
    This is a thing I've been wanting to do for a while. I wanted this on file. This article is the best I've read on the subject... so it will benefit a lot of people who are struggling with a quirky Holley.
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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #248 on: March 16, 2020, 05:52:59 am »
    Shoot, Kurt, that's commitment! Thanks, brother!

    Wheels look great Alex.  If I had that truck I wouldn't even paint it, I'm liking the look, but hey, if the wife's gonna ride in it then yeh, needs paint, don't want to embarrass the bride.

    Thanks man! If it weren't for the rust holes, and the spot the tree fell across the bed, I'd 100% leave the faded paint. Don't want her to rust away to nothing, though. These trucks are getting rare as hens teeth in my area, especially compared to the gold bowties. The only place I can even find used parts is one guy that has a yard full of them an hour and a half away.
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

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    Re: '86 W150 - Lazarus
    « Reply #249 on: March 16, 2020, 11:47:02 am »
    I started getting the spring packs for the front end yesterday. These are factory rear springs that I cracked open and removed the two bottom springs making these a three spring pack. That makes the spring rate a little softer than the current springs, but they're arched instead of flat. My hope is that those two factors balance out to be roughly factory height but a little softer ride.

    I can't remember how much of this I've already covered, but the plan for the rear is to take a set of Chevy rear leaf springs which are longer (56"?.. can't recall off hand) and move the spring mounts on the frame. While I've got the spring mounts off I'll also flip the shackles over and switch to a 7" shackle so that I can remove the lift block to decrease spring wrap, and have increased suspension travel along with a softer ride in the rear while maintaining the same or higher load capacity. I'll also put an angle block in the rear spring pack (the bolt in type) to correct the pinion angle.

    That will probably all happen when I have the bed off in the next few weeks. That will probably be the easiest time to go about this.

    « Last Edit: March 16, 2020, 11:58:04 am by Alex_M »
    '86 W150 "Lazarus" - Single cab long box - 318ci, NP435 swapped, 33" tires, mid-3/4 ton swap. Engine: big ported out 302 heads milled .050, Edelbrock intake, Holley 600, Roller Cam, long tube headers.

    '88 D150 "Daily Driver" (in progress) - Single cab short box, 346ci (destroked) with NASCAR rods, B300 318 heads, Edelbrock SP2P intake, 650 spread bore Holley, NP435 swapped, 2.46 gears.

     

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