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Gun blueing
« on: December 7, 2013, 03:51:55 pm »
Does anyone have experience with gliding guns? I gave it a shot today (no pun intended) on a shotgun barrel. It has been used to hunt in the rain snow and sleet enough that it had a few minor rust spots and the blueing looked tired.
 Got a kit and followed the directions to a T.
   Mixed results.It looks good from five feet away but in the light I can see it is uneven.
   I wouldn't use it on a valuable fire arm but I may touch up my .22 that has been abused.

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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #1 on: December 7, 2013, 05:27:09 pm »
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    I'd like to know also.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #2 on: December 7, 2013, 06:32:20 pm »
    Here is a picture of the kit I used.

     I don't know if it is a good one or bad. It was a little chilly here today and I needed something to do. $12.00 at the farm store.Enough to do 2 guns.
      A link for the kit.
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/474604/birchwood-casey-perma-blue-liquid-cold-blue-kit
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #3 on: December 7, 2013, 10:46:42 pm »
    So it worked good?  It's hard to see from the pic but it looks uniform.

    I have a Savage 300 that is looking a little "not blue" and I would like to redo the bluing on it.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #4 on: December 8, 2013, 12:07:57 am »
    It looks better than it did. My camera died so I can't take a good picture. It had small rust pits that mostly came out with steel wool and a little sanding in spots. I am going to give it another dose and see how it works out.It is okay as it is but I need something to do.We are going to have negative or single digit temperatures until Thursday.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #5 on: December 8, 2013, 01:52:11 am »
    a friend of mine blued an old 22 with the birchwood casey stuff and just wasnt very happy. 

    they got some of this

    http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/metal-bluing/liquid-cold-bluing-chemicals/oxpho-blue-reg--prod1072.aspx

    and were much happier with the results.  they buffed it a bit and it looks pretty good.  im going to get a bottle myself and work over an old gun at some point.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #6 on: December 8, 2013, 10:20:02 am »
    That looks interesting. If you use it let us know how it works. This stuff I used stressed that it has to be 100% clean or it will cause problems.I was very careful and went through the entire cleaning process 3x and spent hours steel wool. Before I started blueing, the barrel looked new. I changed rubber gloves several times and used clean rags and clean steel wool, changing often and using the cleaner /degreaser several times.
      I. couldn't get the blueing agent on even where it was thicker it got dark quick.Other places it would pool up. leaving areas that were thinner. Using steel wool to even it out and several coats helped. I may do another coat or two today.
     
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #7 on: December 8, 2013, 04:49:51 pm »
    i have used the birchwood-casey before and was verry unhappy.the brownells stuff has got to be better.i had a gunsmith blue a 22-250 for me,the finish looked like black chrome.you could see yourself
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 10:05:06 pm »
    I used birchwood stuff many moons ago. For the most part I had good results. Lots of prep time though. Only down side to cold blueing is the need for constant oil. Let it sit, get humid, use it in rain or snow and don't reoil or just plain handling and leaving skin oil on it and it will rust.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #9 on: December 30, 2013, 06:36:25 pm »
    I have used the same kit on a couple different guns.  Both times it turned out okay, but not professional.  Then again, I am not a professional...
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 05:17:51 pm »
    What am I thinking? Header paint man. Used it on my .308. It actually looks dang good. Has held up good too. Been 17 years. I know what you're thinking, geez, what a hillbilly. I'm telling ya, it works. But, the only way it looks right is if all the metal is done with it..... (my whole rifle is done with it, stock and all. Kinda gives a new meaning to "black rifle".) ;D

    And it's a lot easier than bluing. ;)
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #11 on: December 31, 2013, 05:59:40 pm »
    What am I thinking? Header paint man. Used it on my .308. It actually looks dang good. Has held up good too. Been 17 years. I know what you're thinking, geez, what a hillbilly. I'm telling ya, it works. But, the only way it looks right is if all the metal is done with it..... (my whole rifle is done with it, stock and all. Kinda gives a new meaning to "black rifle".) ;D

    And it's a lot easier than bluing. ;)
    That would probably be OK on my .22. It is my "barn" gun used to protect the farm from pigeons, squirrels and feral cats. It has the resin stock so it would be somewhat weather proof. It is less than a year old with rusty finger prints on the barrel.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #12 on: December 31, 2013, 11:16:04 pm »
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/958388/arts-belgian-blue-cold-blue-16-oz-liquid

    Pricey, but this is the old belgian blue formula first sold by Herters. The best cold bluing formula I've ever seen.

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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #13 on: January 1, 2014, 02:01:46 am »
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/958388/arts-belgian-blue-cold-blue-16-oz-liquid

    Pricey, but this is the old belgian blue formula first sold by Herters. The best cold bluing formula I've ever seen.
    Good old Herters. I grew up near the store in Waseca Minnesota. Going there was an all day affair.
       Not all that pricey. It is a big bottle at 16oz. I see you boil the gun parts in distilled water.
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    Re: Gun blueing
    « Reply #14 on: January 5, 2014, 08:58:55 pm »
    If you could get a container long enough to just submerge the parts that's a great way to get a even finish. (don't know why this just popped into my head earlier today while snowblowing)

    For certain pump and injector parts we had a bluing chemical and then a oil to soak the parts in after the bluing. (like a preservative) We also did crescent wrenches, pliers, screwdrivers, basically anything that would fit in there. Had it been long enough I would have re-blued a couple of my dads firearms again. ;D
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