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My Daytona clone project...
« on: May 9, 2020, 11:02:50 pm »
We'll I finally pulled the trigger and "officially" started working on my '70 Charger.
I started gutting the car to determine what needs to be done as far as replacing bad metal. And for blasting.



I found the most complicated units of the car... the rear quarter window regulators...



Unbelievably complicated monsters! An engineering marvel!
But after spending time with them and getting to know them on a personal level... I think I may have them kinda figured out.  ;D  I got a rebuild kit for them.



And after sandblasting, rebuilding and painting them they didn't scare me that much anymore.  ;D



It's amazing how simple the front side windows are compared to those rear ones.
I'm planning on making these all electric control. The front windows have kits available for them... not the rear 1/4er's. So I'll have to get some parts and fab up something to make the 1/4er's work electric. I found a company that can help with those.
Kinda odd this is the first thing I've restored, but the ball is rolling quickly and I ADDed on them.  ;D
I need to plan way ahead to try to keep this project from stalling. I actually ordered my chassis the other day. It's from these guys... https://www.schwartzperformance.com/chassis/1968-1970-b-body-coronet-road-runner-charger-chassis/
I've been fascinated with this guys stuff for quite a few years now. They ain't cheap, but they have everything in one package. Which in the long run makes for better efficiency on my end. Quality stuff there. And they can really perform. They're almost 4 months out for delivery.   :o
I had to make a decision on the wheels and tires right away too because of the brake size. Just finding what I was looking for was a challenge. I'm not purchasing them yet though. 
So next week I'm towing it up to my sons house to get blasted. I'll need to figure out what I need for the metal replacement quickly. A fuel cell to determine sizing/ mounts for the trunk. Already making decisions for the engine to figure out the mounts on the chassis. Also the door catches, Daytona kit, etc.
 
I'll post progress pictures soon of what I did today.




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    Re: My Daytona clone project...
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2020, 08:52:36 am »
    hella-awesome project, and that chassis kit is pretty sweet too {cool}.  I'll definitely be watching this one come together! 

    Yep the body needs some love that's for sure but nothing that can't be repaired.  I had good luck with rust-encapsulator and fiberglass to 'rebuild' the window channels - I think I got it all from Eastwood - basically blasted, primed the areas, laid in layers of fiberglass, trimmed, re-primed and painted - seemed to work good...tho I never completed the project (70 Challenger T/A clone) but the repair work seemed to be pretty straightforward.

    We are re-acquiring our '71 Demon from our friend who bought it from us - he's going a different direction and may do an entirely different car... - anyway it'll be fun to rebuild the car...only this time it'll be with the kids :)

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    Re: My Daytona clone project...
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2020, 11:16:26 am »
    hella-awesome project, and that chassis kit is pretty sweet too {cool}.  I'll definitely be watching this one come together! 

    Yep the body needs some love that's for sure but nothing that can't be repaired.  I had good luck with rust-encapsulator and fiberglass to 'rebuild' the window channels - I think I got it all from Eastwood - basically blasted, primed the areas, laid in layers of fiberglass, trimmed, re-primed and painted - seemed to work good...tho I never completed the project (70 Challenger T/A clone) but the repair work seemed to be pretty straightforward.

    We are re-acquiring our '71 Demon from our friend who bought it from us - he's going a different direction and may do an entirely different car... - anyway it'll be fun to rebuild the car...only this time it'll be with the kids :)

    Keep jammin' Kurt! {popcorn} {popcorn}

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    Thanks Sam for the info.
    The worst window channel is the back glass channel.
    Fortunately I don't need any of that. Being a Daytona, that channel is eliminated because the whole area is filled with a window plug from sail panel to sail panel. As seen here...



    The Charger on the left is a 500. Dodge's first attempt for aerodynamics. It had the first window plug to eliminate drag caused by air pooling in between the standard sail panels. And it got a flush Dodge Coronet grille. Of course, the center one was Bobby Isaac's race Daytona. The one one the right is my ex-son-in-laws original Daytona.
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    Re: My Daytona clone project...
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2020, 12:40:13 pm »
    Are those rear window regulators specific to a Daytona, or same as other B bodies?

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    Re: My Daytona clone project...
    « Reply #4 on: May 10, 2020, 02:23:29 pm »
    dang gone. That's some rust there.

    I love the project but I can feel MY bank account draining just looking at it.   :P
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    Re: My Daytona clone project...
    « Reply #5 on: May 10, 2020, 03:11:42 pm »
    I did not think things rusted in your area :)
    Looks like this is going to be another AWESOME build!!



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    « Reply #6 on: May 10, 2020, 03:41:19 pm »
    I did not think things rusted in your area :)
    Looks like this is going to be another AWESOME build!!



    426 or 540?
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    Yeah really! PA, NY, MI I can see rust but not CA.
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    Re: My Daytona clone project...
    « Reply #7 on: May 10, 2020, 05:31:51 pm »
    Are those rear window regulators specific to a Daytona, or same as other B bodies?

    Bucky
    They're kinda the same... same principle action. They roll down AND back.
    My FSM for my '70 Charger shares with the '70 Coronet. But the mech is a little different in the Coronet.
    Daytona's are basically '70 Chargers even though Daytona's are considered 1969's. The difference is in the front fenders. They changed then slightly in 70. So when you want to make a Daytona, you must have at least the 70 front fenders to line up with the nose cone unit.
    « Last Edit: May 10, 2020, 05:48:25 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #8 on: May 10, 2020, 05:42:43 pm »
    dang gone. That's some rust there.

    I love the project but I can feel MY bank account draining just looking at it.   :P
    This car came from Florida. It could have been worse. It doesn't matter these days. This era of Charger is like gold. AMD makes all kinds of replacement panels. It was tough 15 years ago to do a project like this. Not now.
    It looks like the rear end was exposed to the elements while the front 2/3's was somewhat covered.
    I have the original pink slip with the original owners name and address on it.

    Yep. There's no bargains here.  ;D
    I waited to long for my rich uncles to die. Still waiting...;D  So my wife and I decided it was time to get this thing going. Every things paid off. We've got exceptional credit. Enough available money on tap. So it's my turn before I get too old.
    The bad thing... my wife wanted a new Durango SRT in Destroyer Gray. Like I said... it's my turn.  ;D
    « Last Edit: May 10, 2020, 05:53:10 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #9 on: May 10, 2020, 05:47:23 pm »
    I did not think things rusted in your area :)
    Looks like this is going to be another AWESOME build!!



    426 or 540?
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    Not sure of the actual CI in the end.
    Definitely 2nd Generation Hemi. Aluminum Siamesed Block. Indy Aluminum Heads. SMPI with a Whipple Supercharger. The goal is keeping it somewhat detuned to 1000 H.P.   
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    « Reply #10 on: May 10, 2020, 07:44:15 pm »
    Thanks Sam for the info.
    The worst window channel is the back glass channel.
    Fortunately I don't need any of that. Being a Daytona, that channel is eliminated because the whole area is filled with a window plug from sail panel to sail panel. As seen here...



    The Charger on the left is a 500. Dodge's first attempt for aerodynamics. It had the first window plug to eliminate drag caused by air pooling in between the standard sail panels. And it got a flush Dodge Coronet grille. Of course, the center one was Bobby Isaac's race Daytona. The one one the right is my ex-son-in-laws original Daytona.
    Wasn't the 66-67 charger aerodynamic with the fastback design?  They also put a lip at the bottom of the trunk too to help.  It won nascar it's first year in 66.  I think it's funny ford came out with the 68 torino which looked almost like a 67 charger.
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    « Reply #11 on: May 10, 2020, 07:51:39 pm »
    LOL. You are a glutton for punishment. I'll post some before and after pics of my Daytona clone project to make you feel better.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 10, 2020, 07:57:54 pm »
    Wasn't the 66-67 charger aerodynamic with the fastback design?  They also put a lip at the bottom of the trunk too to help.  It won nascar it's first year in 66.  I think it's funny ford came out with the 68 torino which looked almost like a 67 charger.

    It was the front end that caused all the issues. They first tried the Charger 500. They flushed out the grille by using a Cornet grille and the fast back. Still couldn't beat the fords. They brought over an engineer from Chrysler Aero production for help. He drew a pic of the Daytona. President of Dodge said it was the ugliest car he ever saw. The engineer said I guarantee it will win races. The President said Built it.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 10, 2020, 11:13:59 pm »
    Some more progress today...



    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #14 on: May 11, 2020, 03:11:09 pm »
    That thing looks like a go-cart compared to your truck.  LOL..............    ;D
    I'd rather push a DODGE than drive a chevy or a ford!!!!!!
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    « Reply #15 on: May 12, 2020, 10:59:07 pm »
    That thing looks like a go-cart compared to your truck.  LOL..............    ;D
    And it's really light with nothing on it.  ;D
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    « Reply #16 on: May 12, 2020, 11:05:33 pm »
    My son towed the Charger up to his house yesterday.
    This is the first time it's been out in 9 years...



    It will get blasted tomorrow and it will stay there until the heavy metal gets stitched welded into place.
    Here it sits on the side of his garage...



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    « Reply #17 on: May 13, 2020, 06:36:52 am »
    Not sure of the actual CI in the end.
    Definitely 2nd Generation Hemi. Aluminum Siamesed Block. Indy Aluminum Heads. SMPI with a Whipple Supercharger. The goal is keeping it somewhat detuned to 1000 H.P.
    Really hard to argue against the idea of a G2 hemi, "detuned" or not.

    I did have this thought: As long as yer goin with the updated chassis - rack / pinion, 4 wheel disk, IRS why not full on restomod drive line? As in: HellCrate supercharged G3 [or DIY equivalent].
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    « Reply #18 on: May 14, 2020, 05:43:30 pm »
    Really hard to argue against the idea of a G2 hemi, "detuned" or not.

    I did have this thought: As long as yer goin with the updated chassis - rack / pinion, 4 wheel disk, IRS why not full on restomod drive line? As in: HellCrate supercharged G3 [or DIY equivalent].
    I feel the bottom ends on Big Block Chrysler's are the most reliable units ever produced. They easily can out horsepower a 3rd Generation Hemi with more reliability.
    Besides... it's a big engine bay. It needs to be filled up with a Big Block Hemi. Not a small block Hemi.  ;D
    By the way... not doing an IRS set up.

    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #19 on: May 14, 2020, 05:57:30 pm »
    After blast...



    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #20 on: May 14, 2020, 06:02:48 pm »
    Ordered a few new AMD body panels I knew I needed yesterday from Summit Racing.
    Free shipping! The wife still said "How much?"
    That'll be the only thing free on this project.
    Well, my son will do all the stitch welding of said body panels for free... BUT I've been working on projects of his for 37 years now.  ;D
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #21 on: May 14, 2020, 07:35:16 pm »
    You have a lot of work ahead of you my friend. lol
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    « Reply #22 on: May 14, 2020, 08:36:51 pm »
     I just checked out the chassis/frame set up. Pretty sweet. For both my Daytona clone and 68 Charger R/T I installed US CarTool sub-frame connectors and a core stiffening bracket ( goes over the lower radiator support). Also installed reinforcing plates on the LCA's, Tubular UCA's, and a Hellwig 1-3/8" sway bar. The cars corner very flat, very little body roll. Rear sway bars for both cars in the future.

    What are you using for a rear window plug? I have a Vega plug in mine. While walking thru an old salvage yard two years ago I found a couple of Vegas. I scored a spare rear window for the Daytona and bought a complete hatch off a Pontiac Astre (cousin to the Vega) in case I ever decide to build another clone.

    Dodgecharger.com has a good Aero board if you ever need some input or advice.

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    « Reply #23 on: May 15, 2020, 10:55:39 pm »
    You have a lot of work ahead of you my friend. lol
    Yep.
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    « Reply #24 on: May 15, 2020, 11:13:24 pm »
    I just checked out the chassis/frame set up. Pretty sweet. For both my Daytona clone and 68 Charger R/T I installed US CarTool sub-frame connectors and a core stiffening bracket ( goes over the lower radiator support). Also installed reinforcing plates on the LCA's, Tubular UCA's, and a Hellwig 1-3/8" sway bar. The cars corner very flat, very little body roll. Rear sway bars for both cars in the future.

    What are you using for a rear window plug? I have a Vega plug in mine. While walking thru an old salvage yard two years ago I found a couple of Vegas. I scored a spare rear window for the Daytona and bought a complete hatch off a Pontiac Astre (cousin to the Vega) in case I ever decide to build another clone.

    Dodgecharger.com has a good Aero board if you ever need some input or advice.
    I was going to go that way with the beef up of parts. I was looking at Magnum Force/ etc. front ends. I found a flaw with those aftermarket front ends. They need to adapt for a Rack and Pinon steering set up. So they run a big extension on the arms that attach to the tie rods. Rick Ehrenberg at Mopar Action pointed out how dangerous that set up is. That guys set up at Schwartz Performance is ideal for what I want to do with this car. And it's a complete package. Which should speed up this build. One less thing I need to fix.
    Yeah, the plug. I'm leaning going with a whole Janak kit... http://www.wingedwarriorbodyparts.com/
    Again, for the sake of having everything together. There's about 4 clones and 3 original Daytona's running around this desert. I know all the guys that own them. Heck, my ex-son-in-law has 3. Only 2 in this shot.

    So I have a lot of input from them all.
    I probably will post over at Dodgecharger.com.
    I'm afraid I'll get snubbed for what direction I'm going with this project.  ;D
    Us guys here aren't to concerned with Numbers Matching.
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    « Reply #25 on: May 18, 2020, 07:58:16 pm »
    I'm afraid I'll get snubbed for what direction I'm going with this project.  ;D
    Us guys here aren't to concerned with Numbers Matching.

    HaHa. Yeah, there are always the purists in every group that get their panties all wadded up when someone mentions the word clone. I'm of the same mindset as you. Build what you want and drive it. I have 5 old Mopars. The most original ones are a 79 Lil Red Express (need a restoration) and the RC. The engine in the RC is tired and will need a rebuild in a few years. I'm already thinking about a 440 swap.

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    « Reply #26 on: May 22, 2020, 11:20:41 pm »
    HaHa. Yeah, there are always the purists in every group that get their panties all wadded up when someone mentions the word clone. I'm of the same mindset as you. Build what you want and drive it. I have 5 old Mopars. The most original ones are a 79 Lil Red Express (need a restoration) and the RC. The engine in the RC is tired and will need a rebuild in a few years. I'm already thinking about a 440 swap.
    I really like you now.  ;D
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    « Reply #27 on: May 23, 2020, 08:58:50 am »

    ...Build what you want and drive it...


    100% agree {cool}.  Life is too short not to 'do what you want to your own stuff' {cool} - I never could afford the entry fee for a 'numbers-matching' car anyway so that was never a consideration.  We are re-acquiring our 71 Demon (technically my first car), and it's gonna need an engine.  It was set up for a 440 when we sold it but man was it 'tight' in there especially considering is had factory power steering.  This go 'round we're thinking big block again but might do a 383 or 400 stroker and take advantage of the narrower block etc...
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    « Reply #28 on: May 23, 2020, 09:03:40 pm »
    100% agree {cool}.  Life is too short not to 'do what you want to your own stuff' {cool} - I never could afford the entry fee for a 'numbers-matching' car anyway so that was never a consideration.  We are re-acquiring our 71 Demon (technically my first car), and it's gonna need an engine.  It was set up for a 440 when we sold it but man was it 'tight' in there especially considering is had factory power steering.  This go 'round we're thinking big block again but might do a 383 or 400 stroker and take advantage of the narrower block etc...
    It really isn't that much narrower.
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    « Reply #29 on: May 24, 2020, 06:53:30 pm »
    100% agree {cool}.  Life is too short not to 'do what you want to your own stuff' {cool} - I never could afford the entry fee for a 'numbers-matching' car anyway so that was never a consideration.  We are re-acquiring our 71 Demon (technically my first car), and it's gonna need an engine.  It was set up for a 440 when we sold it but man was it 'tight' in there especially considering is had factory power steering.  This go 'round we're thinking big block again but might do a 383 or 400 stroker and take advantage of the narrower block etc...

    We have a guy up here in NH that stuffed a hellcat engine in his Demon  :o :o :o  Quite the beast

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    « Reply #30 on: May 24, 2020, 09:20:45 pm »
    We have a guy up here in NH that stuffed a hellcat engine in his Demon  :o :o :o  Quite the beast
    For sure!
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    « Reply #31 on: May 24, 2020, 09:45:46 pm »
    Well, a lot has been done with way a lot more to do.
    My grand daughter was our "steer-er" while we pushed...



    Drivers side floor removed. There's some rust in the floor of that torsion bar/ trans mount cross member. Barret said he can cut that out a weld a panel to replace that...




    The trunk area is the most messed up...




    Trial fit of the drivers side floor pan...



    The first thing that needs to be fitted and placed is the back seat foot well...
     


    I ordered what is hopefully the last of the big metal. So Barrett has plenty to do.
    More updates soon.


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    « Reply #32 on: May 25, 2020, 10:14:48 am »
    It really isn't that much narrower.

    ...any little bit would help ;) .  It'll either be a big block...or maybe a 6.4 Hemi...but it'd have to be set up with a carb and regular ignition - none of the OEM controls - I still want it to be somewhat 'old school'...
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    « Reply #33 on: May 25, 2020, 11:17:49 am »
    The Air Force moved up to Hi-Tech, long ago... {devil}

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    « Reply #34 on: June 3, 2020, 03:48:00 pm »
    well it's moving right along.  {cool}
    I'd rather push a DODGE than drive a chevy or a ford!!!!!!
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    « Reply #35 on: July 5, 2020, 12:21:28 pm »
    The Daytona came to a temporary halt because Barrett is trying to get the teardrop trailer he's always wanted to build.
    We're going to Lake Powell for a week and we need a trailer to haul all our stuff. I bought a used utility trailer for that purpose. And he declared he was going to build his teardrop on it. It needs to get finished quickly. He's getting close...


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    « Reply #36 on: July 5, 2020, 03:10:07 pm »
    SWEET Project!!
    Jim
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    BIG BLOCKS RULE !!!!!!!
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    « Reply #37 on: July 5, 2020, 05:06:44 pm »
    More of an update...

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    « Reply #38 on: July 6, 2020, 02:53:00 am »
    Looling good &  NICE Anvil!!!!
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    « Reply #39 on: July 6, 2020, 02:14:52 pm »
    Looling good &  NICE Anvil!!!!
    Barrett loves working with metal.
    He's trying to figure out wood.  ;D
    Don't ever ask him to wire anything.  ;)
    My theory on life... "If you need a podiatrist... don't go to a proctologist".
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    « Reply #40 on: July 13, 2020, 08:59:58 pm »
    very cool! I'd love to have one for the Electra after I put a side car on it.

    Water/steam are great for bending wood.  ;)
    I'd rather push a DODGE than drive a chevy or a ford!!!!!!
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    « Reply #41 on: September 21, 2020, 02:50:59 pm »
    Updates!
    Barrett has been attacking!

    New floor pans are all in..



    His first body panel installed.
    He was really proud of this. It turned out great!



    My chassis will be here in about a week. So Barrett is anxious to get it installed.
    Yesterday while I was working on his '41 Power Wagon... he and my granddaughter tore the suspension out of the Charger...





    Here's a link to a Flicker account showing an install of the chassis I'm getting on a B Body...
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/albums/72157688991909671
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    « Reply #42 on: September 21, 2020, 03:49:20 pm »
    SWEET!!!!!

    Jim
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    « Reply #43 on: September 22, 2020, 10:47:09 am »
    Awesome!
    I'd rather push a DODGE than drive a chevy or a ford!!!!!!
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    79 360/727 RC
    80 318/435 TD
    93 CTD W250 club cab
    73 Charger SE 400/727 
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    « Reply #44 on: September 22, 2020, 01:54:00 pm »
    ...all kinds of nice {cool} - man does looking at that bodywork bring back lotsa memories.  I really want to find a decent 4-door Dart, 71 model, and restore it with my kids into a hot street machine, including tubbing the rear and getting some meat under it to help negate the 'grandma' effect... 8)
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    « Reply #45 on: September 22, 2020, 04:58:51 pm »
    ...all kinds of nice {cool} - man does looking at that bodywork bring back lotsa memories.  I really want to find a decent 4-door Dart, 71 model, and restore it with my kids into a hot street machine, including tubbing the rear and getting some meat under it to help negate the 'grandma' effect... 8)
    I got a right and left of these guys...
    http://www.autometaldirect.com/amd-3-inch-wider-inner-wheelhouse-rh-66-70-dodge-plymouth-b-body-p-23171.html
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    « Reply #46 on: September 26, 2020, 11:13:30 pm »
    Barrett got after the project yesterday and today.
    He couldn't stand the looks of the stock firewall. And has been wanting to eliminate all the seams and folded metal.



    So, I said we need to save the wiper motor mount. He said... why? I want to drive this car. So he agreed.



    He almost got it all welded up today.



    He also cut out the upper control arm mounts. He will replace those panels totally with new bead rolled metal. Clearanced for the new suspension.   



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    « Reply #47 on: September 28, 2020, 08:06:22 pm »
    Barrett started the circumcision of the rain gutters yesterday.



    I think they are very ugly and wanted them gone. More aerodynamicsy.
    It's funny...  real Daytona's came with a chromed wind foil that covered the front side rain gutters to smooth over the obtrusiveness of those ugly gutters.
    Just wack them off!  ;D
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    « Reply #48 on: September 28, 2020, 10:45:18 pm »
    ...my kind of awesome {cool} {popcorn}
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    « Reply #49 on: September 28, 2020, 11:14:16 pm »
    ...my kind of awesome {cool} {popcorn}
    I'm so thankful my son can do this. It's saving me a ton of money.
    Of course, I've been working on his '41 quite a bit in the last few years. He says he owes me.  ;D
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