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My Son's '41 Power Wagon
« on: December 26, 2012, 01:42:49 pm »
Here's my son's newest project.

This is how it arrived from a farm in Oklahoma back in 2005 ...

« Last Edit: August 10, 2017, 03:23:09 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 01:48:54 pm »
    He ended up trashing the very old, rusted up solid original running gear/ frame, in favor of a '75 Power Wagon more up to date stuff (at least something workable). Here he's mocking it up to the newer frame. And you can see the new firewall he made for it...

    « Last Edit: August 10, 2017, 03:24:46 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 01:56:43 pm »
    Well, the original '75 frame didn't last long...He didn't like the way the '75 frame looked with the dip under the cab. So he cut and put in some straight channel to simulate the original '41 frame. And you can see here the tires and wheels he's going to run.





    The tires are 37's. Almost the same height as the stock military ones. He's also trashing the full time case for a much stronger NP205. Along with an axle replacements.

    He sold his '73 Dart Sport he built, to some guy in Finland to finance the new running gear...






    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 04:33:37 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 02:00:16 pm »
    Here's the rear end mocked up. It's a big (9.125") Ford, 4.56 ring & pinion and a Detroit Locker/ disc brake set up.



    When he's finished, it will have a olive drab paint job with all the correct military markings and will be able to go down the freeway at 75 mph.
    You can see the 205 sitting mocked up in the back ground.

    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 04:35:36 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 02:06:14 pm »
    He got the body sand blasted in preparation for some body work and paint.










     
    It was actually in decent shape after many coats of paint from the last 67 years!

    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 04:40:25 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
    500 c.i.- Scat Crank, Scat Rods, Indy Aluminum heads, Comp XR280HR Cam, Six-Pack, Milodon 8 qt. Pan, 727  (reverse-manual, low band apply, 5 clutch disc, 3 qt. xtra. pan), N.P. 205, Ford 9" rear axle (4:11, 31 spline axles, Detroit Locker, converted/ disc brakes). Dana 44 front (converted/ disc, 4:10, Tru-Trac limited slip). Hydra Boost Brake Booster, Gear Vendors OD. 600+ ft. lbs. of torque

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 02:13:59 pm »
    Here's some shots of fitting the body on the frame...







    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 04:50:24 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 02:21:44 pm »
    Well, as we all know, when you build something from scratch, there is a process of fitting and refitting.
    He ended up redoing the entire front 3/4 of the frame.





    This process of re-fabbing and re-shaping has been going on for a few years now.   
    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 04:46:04 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #7 on: December 26, 2012, 02:44:51 pm »
    SWEET!!!
    I love the old power Wagons!!!
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 03:27:28 pm »
     {cool}  I see the apple does not fall far from the tree. Glad to see another proud papa passing the Mopar love down to the son. I have been patiently waiting for you to start this thread. Looks like it's heading in the right direction.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 03:42:02 pm »
    Fitting the old grille with more fabrication...

    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 11:20:13 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 03:47:00 pm »
    Initial fitting for the front axle...





    A whole lot of trial and error through this whole process.
    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 04:56:20 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 04:03:00 pm »
    After a little deliberation, my son said forget the small block. So he "borrowed" my old stroker (135,000 miles plus) to mock up and use for a while until he builds his own.
    Here's some pics of him squeezing it in.





    He wanted to weight the front end to determine the correct spring pad location, engine height and mounting.
    Mucho trial and error continues...   

    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 11:37:40 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 04:06:40 pm »
    oh very cool! {cool}.  Gotta like resurrecting an old classic truck with some newer driveline.  Lookin' real good - though I think there might be a slight vacuum leak at the intake  ;D

    If I ever did an old M-37 or similar truck I'd definitely look at dropping in either a slant-6 or a 4.0 liter Jeep engine with an od A-833 4-speed and a divorced t-case  :D

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 04:07:10 pm »
    This part took months to figure out...







    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 11:35:30 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 04:13:17 pm »
    oh very cool! {cool}.  Gotta like resurrecting an old classic truck with some newer driveline.  Lookin' real good - though I think there might be a slight vacuum leak at the intake  ;D

    I've long wondered what an old truck like that would run like with either a slant-6 or a 4.0 liter Jeep engine  :D

    - Sam
    No doubt.
    As you know, mocking up stuff like this takes forever.
    And that's why when you pay for an "expert" to do this fabbing... it cost a fortune.
    I'm thankful he has the skills and the patience to do this kind of tinkering.
    We all know most of us certainly don't have the money for it.

    He is already becoming a minor "legend"... and word is spreading of his fabbing skills.
    People want him to work on their cars and trucks all the time.
    Until he tells them how much things will cost them.
    « Last Edit: December 26, 2012, 04:15:08 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #15 on: December 26, 2012, 04:19:16 pm »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #16 on: December 26, 2012, 04:22:47 pm »
    Working on the front spring mounts was another months worth of build.











    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 11:52:12 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #17 on: December 26, 2012, 04:29:18 pm »
    Following with months on the rear mount...







    « Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 11:32:46 pm by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #18 on: December 26, 2012, 06:55:35 pm »
    does that rear mount bind into the frame when flexing?  just looks a little awkward
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #19 on: December 26, 2012, 07:43:53 pm »
    does that rear mount bind into the frame when flexing?  just looks a little awkward
    Well, it isn't running yet.
    I'm sure there will be many bugs to work out when it finally does go down the road.
    I think he will be able to figure it out.
    He's adding a block brace in between the two shackles after soon.  ;D
    « Last Edit: December 27, 2012, 01:46:24 am by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #20 on: December 26, 2012, 08:02:48 pm »
    If you can- because I picture a road trip to Alaska, try to hit the Red Deer Mopar show on your way through, I want a hands on view of both Dodges
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #21 on: December 26, 2012, 08:59:22 pm »
    If you can- because I picture a road trip to Alaska, try to hit the Red Deer Mopar show on your way through, I want a hands on view of both Dodges
    This is a dream of mine. But because my son is so cheap, it won't happen unless I pay for his way.  ;D
    We were talking a few years ago about going back to Iowa(?) to the Power Wagon meet they have every year.
    I would love to take another long road trip again.
    He needs to finish the project... which should happen soon.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #22 on: December 26, 2012, 10:27:40 pm »
    ...one of these days...I'm takin' my M-950 to the Power Wagon ralley {cool} - that's definitely on my bucket list  ;D
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #23 on: December 26, 2012, 11:28:58 pm »
    I'm only a stones throw from the Power Wagon ralley and I have never went.  :(  Maybe I should plan a on making a visit next year.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #24 on: December 27, 2012, 01:42:58 am »
    ...one of these days...I'm takin' my M-950 to the Power Wagon ralley {cool} - that's definitely on my bucket list  ;D
    This is a good goal!
    We need to do this together.
    Take over the Rally with RCC Members!!!
    « Last Edit: December 27, 2012, 01:47:23 am by KurtfromLaQuinta »
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    « Reply #25 on: December 27, 2012, 09:26:28 am »
    This is a good goal!
    We need to do this together.
    Take over the Rally with RCC Members!!!


    ...oh I'm definitely 'IN' {cool}.  Just a matter of 'timing'  :)

    Maybe RamJam 2014 or 2015 should be at the PW Ralley!  :D  -  that should give everyone enough time to get a bunch of stuff done and get some rigs ont he road, eh?  Man, what a gig that would be!

    I think this is the proper link - says this year it's June 5-8, in Fairfield, Iowa - http://www.vintagepowerwagons.com/annual-rally.htm

    - Sam
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #26 on: December 27, 2012, 10:50:08 am »
    Our whole active Indiana chapter goes to the Iowa Power Wagon rally! Last year was my first. WE went 3 days coming home Sunday. We did not want to leave!  Vintage Power Wagons is an unbelievable place. New old parts still in the original shipping crates stacked on shelfs 15' high. Getting ready to put in vacation time for all 4 days next year. Pick this one out of your bucket and put it on the calender.
     I'll be watching this build too!
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #27 on: December 27, 2012, 01:59:27 pm »
    If I ever did an old M-37 or similar truck I'd definitely look at dropping in either a slant-6 or a 4.0 liter Jeep engine with an od A-833 4-speed and a divorced t-case  :D

    - Sam

    Sam, you are aware that you can build a Married 4WD A833? Chevy used the A833-OD (yes the chrysler a833 was used in some 1980 - 1986ish Chevy 4x4's).

    They call it an NP440 (an A833-OD) and it was available in 2WD and 4WD versions in their trucks.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #28 on: December 27, 2012, 02:21:23 pm »
    Here's was the progress on mocking up the steering. Building the mount for the steering gear was quite the undertaking...





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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #29 on: December 27, 2012, 04:21:28 pm »
    Sam, you are aware that you can build a Married 4WD A833? Chevy used the A833-OD (yes the chrysler a833 was used in some 1980 - 1986ish Chevy 4x4's).

    They call it an NP440 (an A833-OD) and it was available in 2WD and 4WD versions in their trucks.

    ...did not know that {think} - but that's very interesting.  Dangit Chris - see, it's THIS kind of tech that makes me wanna go buy another project just to try stuff out!!  ;D  ;D

    Kurt - you weren't kidding about that steering box voodoo - wow  :o .  I definitely wanna see this rig in person one of these days - I'm thinkin' an "RCC Power Tour to the Power Wagon Rally"  8) {cool}.  I'll definitely have to tow the big rig tho - top speed will only be about 55 mph.  In fact, on the tail gate I'm going to stencil the following "MAX SPEED - 55 MPH" ;D   Hopefully that'll provide just cause for folks to go on and pass me without flipping me the bird...  ;)
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #30 on: December 28, 2012, 04:22:40 pm »

    Kurt - you weren't kidding about that steering box voodoo - wow  :o

    He spent a month welding, shaping and grinding that mount. Now it looks like something the factory put there.

    And there's always redoing something you thought was right the first time...













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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #31 on: December 28, 2012, 04:31:46 pm »
    In fabricating the front fender mounts, he utilized the stock set up and added a little more beef. They also tie into  the running boards...


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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #32 on: December 28, 2012, 04:38:16 pm »
    He had a radiator built...

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #33 on: December 28, 2012, 04:41:15 pm »
    And anyone who has ever done a build like this, you put it together... then take it apart...


    Then put it back again...

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #34 on: December 28, 2012, 04:46:23 pm »
    And redo something else...



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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #35 on: December 28, 2012, 04:46:49 pm »
    He re- did the front grill by replacing all the bars with 3/8" rods, And added the plate with the water jetted military type star...

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #36 on: December 28, 2012, 04:55:30 pm »
    He alternates from driveline work, to body work...

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #37 on: December 28, 2012, 04:57:05 pm »
    where the heck is that shop at?  I want one
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #38 on: December 28, 2012, 04:57:35 pm »
    He put a 25 gallon fuel cell between the rear frame rails...

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #39 on: December 28, 2012, 05:00:07 pm »
    where the heck is that shop at?  I want one
    He has a 5 acre "ranch" up in Indio Hills.
    He built a small, but very nice 880 sq. ft. house. And a 2400 sq. ft. garage.

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    « Reply #40 on: December 28, 2012, 05:01:10 pm »
    He has a 5 acre "ranch" up in Indio Hills.
    He built a small, but very nice 880 sq. ft. house. And a 2400 sq. ft. garage.

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #41 on: December 28, 2012, 05:02:54 pm »
    Here's a shot of his welding rig he built...

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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #42 on: December 28, 2012, 05:04:21 pm »
    jealous I am
    If you work your brains out like he does, we all can get there.
    If you live through it.  ;D

    I always tell him it's the quality, not the quantity that matters. 
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #43 on: December 28, 2012, 05:13:21 pm »
    Looks like a cool project.  The rear front spring mounts will need to be redone.  with the shackle that long and mounted that high above the bottom of the frame it will hit when the axle articulates.  Not only will this bind, but the weight of the axle will most likely bend the inboard half of the shackle.  That will either twist the spring, shortening it's life, when the axle is level or bend the shackle back and forth until it snaps.  May have to go to a flatter spring with the mounts lower on the frame.  A shorter shackle would be preferable.  Also, how much caster did he figure on the front axle?  The steering box mounting looks a bit overcomplicated and looks like your steering shaft is going to need a pillow block.  I take it since the frame rails don't seem narrow in on the front that he didn't have clearance to mount the box outboard the frame?
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #44 on: December 28, 2012, 07:35:55 pm »
    cool project! but i agree with E. those front spring shackles are no-bueno. the only way you can get shackles that long to work on the front (especially the front!) is to run a pan-hard. otherwise that will be a wandering, bump-steering, death-wobbleing, mess. and like Lanty said, you will end up with broken parts. springs that long, with that much arch, in the front, should have a pan-hard anyways. the thing looks awsome though!!!! cant wait to see more!

    (also, im not insulting the rig! its just constructive criticism. derived from experience!)
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    « Reply #45 on: December 28, 2012, 07:39:15 pm »
    Looks like a cool project.  The rear front spring mounts will need to be redone.  with the shackle that long and mounted that high above the bottom of the frame it will hit when the axle articulates.  Not only will this bind, but the weight of the axle will most likely bend the inboard half of the shackle.  That will either twist the spring, shortening it's life, when the axle is level or bend the shackle back and forth until it snaps.  May have to go to a flatter spring with the mounts lower on the frame.  A shorter shackle would be preferable.  Also, how much caster did he figure on the front axle?  The steering box mounting looks a bit overcomplicated and looks like your steering shaft is going to need a pillow block.  I take it since the frame rails don't seem narrow in on the front that he didn't have clearance to mount the box outboard the frame?
    I appreciate the advice and will forward it on to my son.
    He is new at this geometry of hanging a front end where one wasn't before. He realizes this is a trial and error deal all the way through.
    I mentioned the castor deal to him a while back. This will be dealt with for sure when it gets moving.
    The steering box is actually mounted in the same location a the stock Ford set up he acquired as one unit from the junk yard.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #46 on: December 28, 2012, 07:42:45 pm »
    cool project! but i agree with E. those front spring shackles are no-bueno. the only way you can get shackles that long to work on the front (especially the front!) is to run a pan-hard. otherwise that will be a wandering, bump-steering, death-wobbleing, mess. and like Lanty said, you will end up with broken parts. springs that long, with that much arch, in the front, should have a pan-hard anyways. the thing looks awsome though!!!! cant wait to see more!

    (also, im not insulting the rig! its just constructive criticism. derived from experience!)
    Definitely appreciate all advice.
    Being a son... he usually doesn't pay attention to things I say.  ;D
    Coming from somebody else, and if it's the same thing I mentioned... gets his attention.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #47 on: December 28, 2012, 08:52:11 pm »
    We've done a few SAS swaps on IFS vehicles, mostly using leaf springs.  It can be a bit of a pain to get the right setup for a particular vehicle using parts from various sources.  The arch of the frame, how narrow the frame is up front, how wide the perches on the axle are, the height of the frame horns at the front compared to the rear spring mounting points, front or rear shackle, the amount of arch in the springs, etc.  Once you do a particular vehicle you can copy it to another vehicle of the same chassis pretty easily but even in CAD you can't make up for all the variables with a new chassis, new spring, new weight, etc.  Most of the time I make the solid spring mount with multiple holes to slide the axle back and forth to get a good shackle angle once it's all done and supporting it's own weight.  What loos good on the stands will usually go all to hell once the full weight is on and sometimes even after the springs settle if there is a lot of arch to them.  You can almost guarantee on moving the spring mounts around on a new combination at least once since there is no reliable way to calculate what is going to happen once it's all together.  For this reason, we usually weld the brackets on SAS projects and only bolt any of them once they are in their final position or you end up with a frame looking like swiss cheese from all the revisions.
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #48 on: December 28, 2012, 09:47:52 pm »
    hella-cool rig!!!   {cool} {popcorn}
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    Re: My Son's '41 Power Wagon
    « Reply #49 on: December 29, 2012, 02:05:49 am »
    We've done a few SAS swaps on IFS vehicles, mostly using leaf springs.  It can be a bit of a pain to get the right setup for a particular vehicle using parts from various sources.  The arch of the frame, how narrow the frame is up front, how wide the perches on the axle are, the height of the frame horns at the front compared to the rear spring mounting points, front or rear shackle, the amount of arch in the springs, etc.  Once you do a particular vehicle you can copy it to another vehicle of the same chassis pretty easily but even in CAD you can't make up for all the variables with a new chassis, new spring, new weight, etc.  Most of the time I make the solid spring mount with multiple holes to slide the axle back and forth to get a good shackle angle once it's all done and supporting it's own weight.  What loos good on the stands will usually go all to hell once the full weight is on and sometimes even after the springs settle if there is a lot of arch to them.  You can almost guarantee on moving the spring mounts around on a new combination at least once since there is no reliable way to calculate what is going to happen once it's all together.  For this reason, we usually weld the brackets on SAS projects and only bolt any of them once they are in their final position or you end up with a frame looking like swiss cheese from all the revisions.
    I'm glad for your pointers. I'll get my son to follow up on this advice.
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