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Good angle grinder
« on: February 19, 2017, 09:59:30 pm »
For years I have been using cheap angle grinders that would get abused until they died.The really cheap and really crap ones would die after only a month,while others went on for years.My last two grinders were both king grinders,real cheap but mixed quality.One of them lasted for 4.5 years until smoke and electrical sparks poured out of it in a blaze of glory.So I found another grinder same brand,same size, only it was rated .7 more amps than the other one.In 3 days the rear bearing spun in the plastic housing,but I couldn't return it because it was clearance.So I ran it until today it finally died with a fair bit of a smoke but no sparks :( So now i need a new grinder and I'm tired of cheap chinese junk with variable quality.I went down to HD and looked at the wall of 4 1/2" corded angle grinders but everything was made in china and I couldn't tell much of a difference between the $50 milwaukee, the $70/80 makitas or the dewalts So I thought I would come here and see if anyone had any good luck with sub $100 name brand hecho en china grinders or if I would be better served if I got a couple of harbor freight grinders?

Right now I'm kinda screwed.I was working on a bale spear attachment for a bobcat when my grinder went TU,and I just started a new job from 8-5 monday through friday so all of the pawnshops in town are out because they close at 5pm and I need a new grinder fast to finish up this job..
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #1 on: February 20, 2017, 07:04:16 am »
    My Makita has been going strong for about 20 years of intermittent use.  I've built several trucks, trailers, restored a lot of muscle car floors and fabricated a lot of stuff with them over the years.  Naturally it's a different world now and the new ones may be made in a completely different place with a totally different design, but since this one has lasted so long I have never needed another.  Sometimes I do wish I had a second as I really get tired of swapping from grinding disc to cut off disc to twisted wire wheels, and have occasionally used a friend's Crapsman and non-name "tool sale" knock offs but both of them have a lot of problems.  The no-name one will actually get so hot in your hands that it's uncomfortable to use for long periods.  For what it's worth, if I had the money to buy a power tool now, I would probably go with a Milwaukee, just because I have had pretty good luck with their sawzalls, drills and other power tools.  My circular saw is about as old as my Makita angle grinder and still is one of the best tools I own but I hear Porter Cable has lowered their standards on a lot of their stuff.  Also keep in mind that a lot of tool companies will have better quality tools with a higher price point so it may pay off to look around and not buy the cheapest grind you find in a particular brand.  When buying tools it's sometimes better to spend a little more now and have something that will last, but with today's chinese made "quality", it can be a gamble.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 01:58:11 pm »
    I work as a detailer at a local body shop and I ended up getting sent home early today because it was raining and non of the vehicles were done with the body work.So I went to a pawn shop and found a used Makita 9557PB for $35 so it brought it home with me.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #3 on: February 20, 2017, 08:29:57 pm »
    Dewalt for me , look at amp draw of motor to determine strongest motor . 9 amp is about strongest I have seen . Some have small arbors instead of standard 5/8 . 
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 10:10:31 am »
    I'm an admitted "tool whore." I have 2 Milwaukees and 4 Deltas. All have served me well for many years, likely because none get "beat on" real hard. One Milwaukee has a cut-off wheel on it, the other has a coarse grinding wheel. The DeWalts have a medium flapper disk, a fine flapper disk, a twisted wire brush and a cup brush. I never change wheels when fabbing. I just set one down and grab the next. The time savings and lack of headaches over the years have made it money well spent... at least for me.

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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #5 on: February 26, 2017, 01:06:33 pm »
    I'm an admitted "tool whore." I have 2 Milwaukees and 4 Deltas. All have served me well for many years, likely because none get "beat on" real hard. One Milwaukee has a cut-off wheel on it, the other has a coarse grinding wheel. The DeWalts have a medium flapper disk, a fine flapper disk, a twisted wire brush and a cup brush. I never change wheels when fabbing. I just set one down and grab the next. The time savings and lack of headaches over the years have made it money well spent... at least for me.

    I agree, it saves a lot of time to have multiple power tools and just swap when switching from brushing to grinding and back. I think the toughest load is running a cup brush, and even with gloves on, those are nasty to mount and dismount. I keep one mounted on an old yard sale Craftsman. I also picked up the better-grade Harbor Freight tool, and I like the flapper switch on it better, though the lock button fell out (I just jam a drill bit in to lock it when changing wheels).

    IMHO almost everything is made in China now. It's really just a matter of what specs they are made to. At least SOME of what HF sells is sourced from FREE China (aka Taiwan). Wouldn't buy Craftsman new today, though they've sold off the brand now, so who knows what they'll get built to. Lately I've not been impressed.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #6 on: March 3, 2017, 01:52:04 pm »
    I keep buying cheap chinese ones $20-40 when on sale. I have 3 on the go... grinding disc, cutting disc, and a wire cup brush. Spreads out the workload for a respectable lifespan, and I'm never SOL when one breaks down.

    I may pickup a cordless Makita one for mobile use... but thats because I'm into their batteries already for other tools.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #7 on: March 16, 2017, 01:49:33 pm »
    I have a Dewalt, a Makita an old Black & Decker, a cordless Ryobi and one I bought from Harbor Freight for $10.00. The Dewalt, Makita & B&D ones all have many many hours on them and feel like they will last for many more. The cordless Ryobi 18-Volt one surprised me, bought it for a 10 minute job in an area with no power and it is surprisingly well made and seems like it'll last a while with the very light use I'll give it. The Harbor Freight one is the real surprise, I expected it to crap out long ago and it's still going. I too believe in a grinder for every purpose and they all wear different attachments as I hate to keep swapping stuff back & forth. The HF one has a cutting wheel on it all the time and continues to amaze me every time it starts. Yes its not as "good" as the others but durn it, it keeps on working. 
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #8 on: March 16, 2017, 02:50:57 pm »
    Metabo is the one I would recommend ...very pricey but last a long time.   I too have used the cheap ones...the one that I have had the longest is an old...old Black and Decker Industrial grinder...
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 07:13:58 am »
    Most cheap grinders come as 4" or 4 1/2". So in the end you toss the guard to run the usual 5" disks, or wire wheels. In the early '90's I bought a 5" Makita, because a couple of buddies who were pipeline welders said that was the only grinder that would last out in the oil patch. It died a smokey death around 4 years ago. Bought another one, but when the pipe fitting shop did a major lay off, it walked off with some one else. The Makita's run about $160 up here. Went to 3 welding supply stores, they were sold out. Settled with the 5-6" Dewalt.  No issues with it. Other than it smells like burning plastic, and seems to get warm fast. Same as the cordless 1/2" drill and impact driver.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #10 on: August 20, 2017, 10:13:21 pm »
    Metabo, the best grinders hands down. I'm a boiler maker/R1 certified welder. I use grinders every day for hours at a time, and I beat them to death. I've used : milwalki, makita, Bosch, DeWalt, Delta, skil, Porter Cable, chicago electric, and more that I can't remember what they were called. The only ones that came close to metabo were milwalki and DeWalt, but they fell pretty short.

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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #11 on: August 23, 2017, 12:43:02 pm »
    Metabo for sure we use them in the truck shop all the time.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #12 on: August 23, 2017, 12:52:35 pm »
    my 4.5" death wheel, sawzall, 3/8 drill, and jig saw are all Dewalt - for what I do they have held up the best.  I'm not exactly 'kind' to them, especially the saw, and I get about 2 years from each of them - more from the jig saw but I use it less often.  Frankly I'm surprised the saw hasn't melted on several occasions - the blades sure have...

    I am tempted tho to get a normal death wheel and saw from HF and see how long they last...for 'scientific analysis' of course...
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 04:03:46 pm »
    I have several Ryobi's that all have been worked hard. Most are over 10 years old. Most of my hand power tools are Ryobies, and have not worn out any yet.



    I am tempted tho to get a normal death wheel and saw from HF and see how long they last...for 'scientific analysis' of course...
    I had a HF wheel self destruct the first time it was powered up, Put a hole in my shoe, just missing my toes. Now when I mount a new wheel, I will point it in a safe direction and power it up far several seconds before I do any thing else. I do still use HF wheels, along with many other brands. I won't waste my money on HF saw blades, and drill bits. Those I usually get Milwaukee brand from HD.


    Hf brand tools can vary from one batch to the  next. Some good, some bad, In general, they seem to be much better then 10 to 15 years ago.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #14 on: August 23, 2017, 09:59:31 pm »
    Thank you for sharing this. I've never bought a harbor freight wheel but I will surely not buy one after hearing this experience. The thought of something disintegrating at 15k RPM (?) makes me want to spend a couple of bucks more for a wheel. As far as angle grinder, I like makita for the value as it relates to longevity. Mine has done well.

    I had a HF wheel self destruct the first time it was powered up, Put a hole in my shoe, just missing my toes.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #15 on: August 23, 2017, 11:14:44 pm »
    It was just the one, I would bet the pack had been dropped. Thats why I now run them in a safe direction at full speed for several seconds. It does not keep me from buying HF wheels. Although I do get most of mine from Tractor supply due to their location, and price.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #16 on: August 24, 2017, 06:35:02 am »
    Metabo, the best grinders hands down. I'm a boiler maker/R1 certified welder. I use grinders every day for hours at a time, and I beat them to death. I've used : milwalki, makita, Bosch, DeWalt, Delta, skil, Porter Cable, chicago electric, and more that I can't remember what they were called. The only ones that came close to metabo were milwalki and DeWalt, but they fell pretty short.

    Welcome aboard. Before I got retired by a broken neck and a few other things, I was a Steamfitter and certified pipe welder. I worked side-by-side with many a Boilermaker in many a power plant over the years. Depending on the contractor, we often used Metabo as well. Good stuff.

    As an aside, I've been using "Diablo" wheels and saw blades from Home Depot. I can't say for sure that the wheels are any better or worse than anything else but the saw blades are excellent. They cut well and last long... at least for me.
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    Re: Good angle grinder
    « Reply #17 on: October 6, 2017, 09:32:34 pm »
    another vote for dewalt. My dad and uncle always used them, grew up with them, never had one give up.
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