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Driveshaft "phasing"
« on: April 29, 2010, 10:46:49 pm »
I've often heard that driveshafts with slip yokes should be phased so both yoke "ears" are in alignment, as opposed to being 90* out. I just wanted to confirm this before installing my driveshaft. What's the verdict?

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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 10:54:57 pm »
    Yes, both ears should be parallel.
    as seen in these three photos.

    « Last Edit: May 1, 2010, 02:06:24 pm by SuperBurban »
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 06:06:06 am »
    yup one tooth [spline] off on the slip yoke and it throws the u-joint phase out and can cause vibration - binding and shorter u-joint life
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 07:57:12 am »
    Thanks guys {cool}

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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 08:35:49 am »
    Thanks guys {cool}
    Thanks!  is that all?  should at least be worth a virtual beer.   {beer}



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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 09:34:31 am »
    Thanks!  is that all?  should at least be worth a virtual beer.   {beer}





    Why?  Your text above and below your picture contradicts itself! 

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    top pic is wrong, bottom is correct.




    top is correct, bottom is wrong.

    You're gonna totally confuse him! :P
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 10:09:45 am »
    Lol, I love the pic though.  I've struggled a few times trying to explain about how the yokes need to point the same way or how the caps need to be lined up or some other confusing way of describing it.  That pic sums it up perfectly.
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 10:12:24 am »
    George, if we had a virtual high five emoticon, you'd get it. {cool}
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 11:01:09 am »

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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 12:11:06 pm »
    I do believe this thread is FAQ-worthy.
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 01:50:14 pm »
    Why?  Your text above and below your picture contradicts itself!  

    You're gonna totally confuse him! :P

    I think hybrid was more then capable of understanding, but I did rewrite it for the folks with a lower reading comprehension capability, thanks for the suggestion.
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 02:43:44 pm »
    I think hybrid was more then capable of understanding, but I did rewrite it for the folks with a lower reading comprehension capability, thanks for the suggestion.

    I did get it on the first go, George. Thanks for having faith in me {cool}

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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 03:36:52 pm »
    I think hybrid was more then capable of understanding, but I did rewrite it for the folks with a lower reading comprehension capability, thanks for the suggestion.

    Actually, it seems from re-reading your text and reading responses of some other folks, there might be a picture you're showing that isn't coming through here at work.  I just see the one diagram.   Hence the text seems like it would be confusing.  :-\
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 10:23:27 pm »
    Yes a pirate picture of actual driveshaft.

    Pirate may not allow remote hosting, I'm not sure.

    If you cannot see it, you can still click here:
    http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-shaft/phase.jpg
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #14 on: April 30, 2010, 10:48:47 pm »
    That link comes up as FORBIDDEN.  That was sort of dramatic, eh?  ;D
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #15 on: April 30, 2010, 11:02:57 pm »
    Oh no!  Now I'll lose my pirate lurking privileges!






    I guess this is not a good time to ask Pat for another virtual beer!   ???

    « Last Edit: April 30, 2010, 11:05:37 pm by SuperBurban »
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #16 on: May 1, 2010, 09:10:19 am »
    Oh no!  Now I'll lose my pirate lurking privileges!






    I guess this is not a good time to ask Pat for another virtual beer!   ???




    Not only do you get two for the risk you took of creeping around pirate (you never know what you might contract), I'm also going to take a picture of a correctly phased driveshaft, so RCC has their own.

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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #17 on: May 1, 2010, 09:30:34 am »
    And one 90* out?
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #19 on: May 1, 2010, 02:23:07 pm »
    I an attempt to redeem my self, I took several photos of a correctly phased drive shaft, and posted them on my original post.

    here is some photos of some incorrect assembled drive shafts.
    77 W200, 360/727/NP203/D44HD/D60 (Wifes Toy)
    77 M887- 318/727/NP203 D44HD/D60
    78/86 Ramcharger.  360/727/NP203 D44/9&1/4
    85/89/90 D150/W250 5.9TBI/435/241 D44HD/D60HD
    85 W350 360/727/241 D44HD/D60
    97 B3500 5.9MPFI/518 D60HD
    20 Pacifica Hybrid, 3.6 V6, EVT 1 speed trans.
    projects:
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    Re: Driveshaft "phasing"
    « Reply #20 on: May 1, 2010, 02:25:28 pm »
    Ask and ye shall receive: