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Offline RedneckInTraining

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New computer build?
« on: September 19, 2020, 06:36:49 am »
This might not be the best forum for this, but I'll give it a go anyway. I built my current PC many years ago. Its specs are i5-760 processor, 16 GB 1600hz DDR3 ram, Nvidia GTX-460, It has a 120 GB SATA solid state drive purely for the operating system (windows 7), and a 1 TB Western Digital 7200 rpm harddrive for everything else. Currently, my SSD is mostly full, while the HD is a little more than 50%, so more capacity would be a plus but faster speeds would be great. Its all on a EVGA P55 motherboard, in a generic case with a couple of fans. While it runs my current games fine, I have been adjusting its settings on games lower each year. It is completely stock overclocking wise, nor do I have any plans of overclocking the next build from a pure reliability stand point. So the stock CPU/GPU cooling is perfectly fine. I also have no interest in lights or other gimmicks. So I'm looking for a PC that can consistently output games at 1080P at 120+ FPS and do that for atleast 7 years like my current pc. I also play with CAD software from time to time when I'm working on a project in my garage so it needs to able to run stuff like that. If I emptied my entire savings account into this I would have $1000 total, but for various reasons I would prefer to spend considerably less than that.
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    Re: New computer build?
    « Reply #1 on: September 19, 2020, 01:06:42 pm »
    1080P is the low end of the spectrum these days and pretty easy to achieve.  I run mostly 1080P on my old rig:

    Processor Information:
        CPU Vendor:  GenuineIntel
        CPU Brand:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz  "Devil's Canyon"
        CPU Family:  0x6
        CPU Model:  0x3c
        CPU Stepping:  0x3
        CPU Type:  0x0
        Speed:  4080 Mhz
        8 logical processors
        4 physical processors
        HyperThreading:  Supported
        FCMOV:  Supported
        SSE2:  Supported
        SSE3:  Supported
        SSSE3:  Supported
        SSE4a:  Unsupported
        SSE41:  Supported
        SSE42:  Supported
        AES:  Supported
        AVX:  Supported
        AVX2:  Supported
        AVX512F:  Unsupported
        AVX512PF:  Unsupported
        AVX512ER:  Unsupported
        AVX512CD:  Unsupported
        AVX512VNNI:  Unsupported
        SHA:  Unsupported
        CMPXCHG16B:  Supported
        LAHF/SAHF:  Supported
        PrefetchW:  Unsupported

    Operating System Version:
        Windows 10 (64 bit)
        NTFS:  Supported
        Crypto Provider Codes:  Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

    Video Card:
        Driver:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
        DirectX Driver Name:  nvldumd.dll
        Driver Version:  27.21.14.5148
        DirectX Driver Version:  27.21.14.5148
        Driver Date: 6 21 2020
        OpenGL Version: 4.6
        Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
        Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
        DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
        VendorID:  0x10de
        DeviceID:  0x1b82
        Revision:  0xa1
        Number of Monitors:  1
        Number of Logical Video Cards:  1
        No SLI or Crossfire Detected
        Primary Display Resolution:  1920 x 1080
        Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
        Primary Display Size: 18.74" x 10.55" (21.50" diag)
                                                47.6cm x 26.8cm (54.6cm diag)
        Primary Bus: PCI Express 16x
        Primary VRAM: 8191 MB
        Supported MSAA Modes:  2x 4x 8x

    Sound card:
        Audio device: Speakers (Sennheiser Main Audio

    Memory:
        RAM:  16326 Mb

    I mainly run games like Mount and Blade Bannerlord, Ark and a bunch of old stuff that are just old favorites.  Currently I don't really have a need to upgrade, as most new games don't appeal to me or will run on lower spec rigs like Mount and Blade.  But the new Nvidia 30 series cards have me daydreaming about building a new rig as they are a huge leap in performance.  But my processor would bottle-neck a new card of that caliber, so a complete system build would be necessary.  I would like to bump up to at least 1440P, but I don't really care about 4K and all that.

    As for a low cost build, check out Paul's Hardware on YouTube.  He frequently does builds at various price points about every month so the tech stays pretty current.  PC Part Picker is a great site to do "virtual" builds and price out various builds to see how much it will cost and what is available.  It will also give you info on compatibility.  Tom's Hardware is also a good site for info and reviews.

    Currently AMD seems to have the upper hand with processors as far as power and price, but Intel still has a lot of good processors that wouldn't break the bank at the power level you are looking at.  I do recommend going with a motherboard that is M.2 compatible and picking up at least one M.2 SSD as they are pretty cheap and very fast.  Some parts like power supplies are pretty hard to find these days with the slow-down in production due to Covid, so you may have to compromise there to get what you need.  Also, Win7 is no longer supported, so time to make the jump to Win10.

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    Re: New computer build?
    « Reply #2 on: September 20, 2020, 03:06:12 am »
    Windows 10 has ALOT of unnecessary "features" and online connectivity that quite frankly, I dont want. I would rather run linux than deal with windows 10. My windows 7 auto update has been disabled since day one because to this day I'm convinced that microsoft intentionally bricked XP just to sell newer versions. My older computer ran flawlessly on XP until vista/7/8 etc were being introduced then errors and BSODs everywhere...
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    Re: New computer build?
    « Reply #3 on: September 20, 2020, 06:20:02 am »
    So, out of all the millions of computers out there still running XP, Microsoft singled you out to brick your computer?  Don't be silly.  Remember, there are a lot of business systems and programs that still run on XP and are not compatible with newer operating systems.  Our government has quite a lot of them.  But either way, Win10, as much as I dislike the layout of the menus, is a more stable operating system and boots much, much faster than XP or Win7.  Plus, Win10 is the only way to get DirectX12, which is geared for today's multicore processors.  DirectX11 and prior were made for single core or even 32 Bit systems.  I balked at upgrading to Win10 for a long time, but it was a free upgrade with my Win7 key code, it boots faster, I get more FPS in games and I can turn off all the "features" in Win10 that I don't want running, just like every other version of Windows.  Plus, I don't think you can even get drivers for newer graphics cards for the old OS'.  I think maybe the 10 Series cards were the last to offer drivers for Win7 and older?

    As for Linux, I tried that as well but it was a huge hassle to get some programs to run and it was never reliable.  Some games were made for it, but many had weird problems and a lot of CTDs or just bricking the whole system.  I ran a dual boot for a little while with it and would compare it to Win7 and so many things ran butter smooth on Windows and then were a nightmare on Linux.  I think I would hate buying a new game to try and having to fight with my system for hours to be able to get it to run.  I only get to game on the weekends now, and I don't have time for that sort of thing.  Just my .02
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    Re: New computer build?
    « Reply #4 on: September 21, 2020, 02:42:57 pm »
    I'm probably not much help but I use a Dell M4800 with I7-4810mq Quadro M2200 graphics 2tb crucial ssd and 32gb ram. runs good with windows 10 and I'm keeping windows just for compatibility with solidworks. I keep threatening to go back to linux or at least dual boot. Linux was MUCH better on my old laptop.But with this system as it stands I can run solidworks and destiny 2 both without any trouble. I believe you can find one similar (without my upgrades ) on amazon for around $500 when I got this one it had a K1100M GPU and a 1tb hard drive and ran everything smoothly still. this machine has room for 3 ssd's if you put one in instead of the disk drive.
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