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Steering knuckle help
« on: June 7, 2012, 04:37:48 PM »
I have a 78 W200 with the dana 44 8 lug axle I took it to get inspected the other day and they told me the pass. outer tie rod was bad. I replaced and took it back and he tells me its still not fixed because its loose in the knuckle. He told me sometimes you can put a washer on it so it will suck it up in further which i didnt really understand or go find a new knuckle because the hole is wallored out. Now the other problem I have is the guy who owned this truck before me swapped everything over from the knuckles out to ford parts. Im guessing the knuckles are different from chevy, dodge, ford right? So my main question is does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this without going out and finding a new knuckle or can someone tell me if other knuckles will work.
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #1 on: June 7, 2012, 04:55:52 PM »
A machine shop could be able to repair it. People are afraid of machine shops and machine shops are often afraid of walk-up small job individuals, but if you two can get beyond that, a repair could be made. They could bore the old taper out slightly and press in a repair sleeve that could be reamed to same angle as your tie rod stud.

The old rule of thumb is: if a tie rod stud is polished shiny when removed, it is probably spinning in the knuckle and wearing the knuckle taper.

You have a higher chance of success with that than trying to track down a mysterious knuckle from some 30yr old vehicle that you are not sure what it came off of. Even once this elusive vehicle is tracked down...no one can say if it too is worn oversize or not.

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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #2 on: June 7, 2012, 08:40:16 PM »
I had a similar situation. A previous owner (of the knuckles) had reamed them out to chevy size and then some. So when I went to tighten the nut, it bottomed out on the threads and the taper wasn't tight yet. I made a spacer to put under the nut like a thick washer and everything tightened up ok.
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #3 on: June 8, 2012, 06:32:28 AM »
Im still confused on how putting a thick washer under the nut will tighten it up more. I was worried about that same thing with a used knuckle is that even if it worked this time would i be replacing that one again in a year or two
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #4 on: June 8, 2012, 07:31:48 AM »
I'd make sure you are using the right tie rod end.  If the knuckles have been swapped, it may take a different end that a stock Dodge would use.  I know the studs are different sizes on the GM axles, possibly on Fords as well.
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #5 on: June 8, 2012, 10:04:03 AM »
How about posting some pics of what you have, and where you think the play is coming from. Then we could give you a lot better ideas.
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #6 on: June 8, 2012, 11:19:09 AM »
 I agree with the pics, and also agree with making sure the correct tie rod is being used for the spindle thats on the truck.

 The washer or spacer idea is ok as long as both tapered sections of the tierod and spindle are contacting each other.

 I wonder if the guy you were talking to meant using a washer to take up the gap left between the two tapered sections. This would mean the washer will have to be forced around the tierod taper during installation. I've never tried this, but guess it might work if done carefully??
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #7 on: June 8, 2012, 03:35:16 PM »
Everything from the knuckles out is for a 78 ford F250. The tie rod I have is also for the ford. Ill try to get some pictures up.
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #9 on: June 8, 2012, 06:19:47 PM »
Like I said mines been chevyised, but the spacer deal would work the same. It's just to pull the taper in tighter till it seats properly. Just make sure it doesn't pull through to the point of binding up the tie rod. See the thick spacer under the nut?
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Re: Steering knuckle help
« Reply #10 on: June 8, 2012, 07:17:14 PM »
 It looks like if he pulls that tie rod through anymore, the boot is gonna get jammed up.
 
 The hole in the spindle is still tapered right??
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