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Offline Big Bad Dodge

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Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
« on: July 21, 2013, 07:08:24 PM »
Well, I've ran into a brick wall. I took my old, leaking and worn out steering box off and bought a new one at Oreilly's, and they asked me if it was standard or reverse rotation. I looking at my old one and the way it steered, and I thought that it was standard. So, I got the new one home, put it on, and hooked everything up. Started up the truck, and the wheels turned opposite of the way I turned the steering wheel.{think}Now I don't know if I screwed up and needed a reverse rotation, or they screwed up and gave me the reverse one instead. I have researched this before, but nobody came out and said " this is the official way to tell", not even the Chrysler factory repair manual. Anybody know which is which? Also, I wonder why there is both standard and reverse rotations for that specific year. I want to learn from this and know the correct way to tell the difference.

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #1 on: July 21, 2013, 07:39:19 PM »
    can you post a pic of what your setup looks like?
    there are two different steering setups, early and later - and i'm not sure where the break is but it was in the '70's.

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2013, 05:47:00 AM »
    Why would they even list it that way?  You got a box for a 2wd truck, you need one for a 4wd.

    The steering change was 78 or 79, at that point 2wd and 4wd used the same box.

    I know that folks use those terms to describe the Saginaw boxes all the time but IMHO standard rotattion is what the vehicle was esigned for, reverse rotation makes the steering backwards.

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 02:27:37 PM »
    See pics.
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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 07:21:07 PM »
    72-74 4x4's used the cradle type (rev rotation). 75 and later 4x4's  used the plate mounted (std rotation).

    If you had you old one with you, there's no reason the dumbass at the counter should have given you the wrong type.

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 07:34:10 PM »
    72-74 4x4's used the cradle type (rev rotation). 75 and later 4x4's  used the plate mounted (std rotation).

    If you had you old one with you, there's no reason the dumbass at the counter should have given you the wrong type.

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 07:50:14 PM »
    I thought the reverse rotation box was used up until like '77 or so?  I know my buddy has a low mileage '76 W100 with the reverse rotation box that for all intents and purposes, appears to be original to the truck.
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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 08:15:46 PM »
    25&32 spline standard and reverse rotation.

    Whats the difference?

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 07:51:52 AM »
    My '77 has a reverse rotation, cradle mounted box.
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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 08:27:18 AM »
    Reverse rotation box = splined sector shaft points to the driver side, shafts turn opposite direction

    Standard rotation box = sector shaft points down, both shafts turn same direction

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    Re: Reverse or Standard Rotation steering box? 1975 Dodge W200
    « Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 08:04:07 PM »
      ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE SUPER AWESOME!!

    Man, I just got home and hopped on RCC and noticed the amount of response to my topic. It is so cool that  all you guys helped me out when I was in a bind!

    After talking to Oreilly's, who was very helpful in fixing the mix up, my truck will hopefully be ready for Friday! I'm pulling off the box tonight and returning it tomorrow.

    After this fiasco, I really have learned about a whole new part and system that I had no idea was that specific.

    Thank you all for all of the help and info!