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Install Locking Hubs
« on: November 20, 2012, 03:57:25 PM »
Hey guys I want to install locking hubs on my truck. My question is best way to do it and the best setup. I have never installed locking hubs so just looking for some knowedge.
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 05:34:37 PM »
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 06:22:39 PM »
I presume this is on the 1990 W250 in your sig.  If so and you want to put on manual hubs, better read up about your axle as well since you'll want to lock the CAD in the engaged position.

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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 08:26:06 PM »
...but you don't have to lock your CAD. It depends on what your goals are.
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 11:17:31 PM »
Its a farm truck.not a rock crusher just want to relieve the front end and get a few more miles per gallon. What is the CAD? May b a silly question lol
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2012, 11:23:33 PM »
Ah heck thats easy I thought it would b more difficult like pulling the axles I have done that before just put factory hibs back in. Thx a bunch guys.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2012, 11:28:23 PM »
I read up on that Johnny and my truck is a 90 3/4 ton so it doesnt have a CAD. One less thing to worry about lol.
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 11:56:20 PM »
One day when humanity wipes itself off the face of the earth I hope we do such a thorough job that no other intelligent life will realize what idiots we were.

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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2012, 01:07:15 AM »
Are the warn hubs not any good? Im confused
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 06:36:56 AM »
Are the warn hubs not any good? Im confused

Willy J dont like WARN hubs / l love them because of the lifetime guarantee / they screw up you walk in and they give you a NEW set  / you cant beat that and the other hubs dont have that guarantee
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 10:10:17 AM »
Are the warn hubs not any good? Im confused


There average.

Every wheeler will give you an opionion as to what is best. Get what you like, get what you can afford.
I was mostly busting Dodgboys chops because it was an lame post with no substance to back up why Warn hubs are "Zee best!!!"

Personally I have had a set of warn hubs fall off my Ramcharger. So I am not a big fan. I could have had a bad set, I could have had one faulty hub. But when my lockring and knob from the hub passed me while going down the road. The inner aluminum portion that holds the rest of the manual hub to the wheel end has six or eight threaded holes. Those holes wore out or stripped out. Thus my Warn hub left my truck at freeway speed. Did not make me happy.

The hub was not covered because I was not the original owner/installer. Thats what I got for using JY parts.

I put a set of Milemarkers on my truck. They were sturdy, easy to turn and grasp. All metal. I honestly dont know if they have a warrenty on them. I put them on my Ramcharger in 2004 and a set on my truck in 2005. No issues to date.
Does that make them the greatest and the only ones you should buy.... no. Shop around, review and ask. An google the product you are interested in with keywords like, reviews, failure, recall, warrenty, etc etc.

warn hub failure
Warn Hub Warrenty
http://www.warn.com/corporate/images/907/hubwarr.pdf
Warn Industries, Inc. (WARN) warrants to the original purchaser that the mechanical components of the "WARN" Locking
Hub will be free of defects in material and workmanship for the lifetime of the hub. This Warranty applies only to the
original purchaser of the hub. To obtain any warranty service, you must provide WARN with proof of purchase and date of
purchase acceptable to WARN, such as a copy of your purchase receipt. This warranty does not cover the removal or
reinstallation of the hub. WARN will, at its option, repair, replace or refund the purchase price of a defective hub or
component, provided you return the defective hub or component during the warranty period, transportation charges prepaid,
to Warn Industries' Service Department or a Factory Authorized Service Center. Attach your name, address, telephone
number, a description of the problem, and a copy of your receipt and original bill of sale of the defective hub and date of
purchase.
Mile Marker Hub Failure
Mile Marker is just as bad with the warrenty stipulations. I just havent broken one yet. I did get the supremes though.

Mile Marker/Selectro hubs, conversion kits limited warranty
 
Mile Marker Inc. warrants directly to the first purchaser of each Mile Marker Supreme and Streetmaster locking hub that it will be free from defects in material and workmanship appearing under normal use and service for as long as said purchaser owns the locking hub.  Mile Marker “Selectro Classic” models have a 1-year warranty. All Mile Marker Conversion Kits have a 1-year warranty, except for the Four Wheel Drive Chain included in some kits, which has a 90-day warranty. This warranty extends only to the first purchaser. Warranty registration cards for each product must be submitted at the time of purchase or within 30 days by the end user. If you discover a hidden defect, Mile Marker will, as its option, repair or replace the product or necessary replacement parts at no charge to you, provided you remove the product from the vehicle and return it prepaid to Mile Marker Inc. If the product was purchased in the United States, the owner must contact our warranty department to get a Return Goods Authorization (RGA) Number before returning the product. If the product was purchased outside the United States, the owner must return the product to the original place of purchase.


Also in the howtoo notice how Snakeman 55 used a set of Milemarker Supremes...    ;)
Just a thought.
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2012, 05:54:00 PM »
I read up on that Johnny and my truck is a 90 3/4 ton so it doesnt have a CAD. One less thing to worry about lol.

Say what? Where did any info say that? The only 3/4 tons that year without cad, are dana 60s. If you had a dana 60 you wouldnt be asking about locking hubs, as they would have already had them.

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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2012, 04:39:07 PM »
This link.right here that was posted above http://ramchargercentral.com/drivetrain/how-does-cad-work/
Thaxton says they didnt use one on 3/4 ton trucks till 94. Is he wrong or am I reading it erong????
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2012, 04:50:38 PM »
The D44s have the Cad not the d60 which is in Cummins 3/4tons till 94. In 94 when they changed to the 2nd gen and eliminated lockouts on the D60 and added the CAD. Hope this clears it up.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2012, 08:51:13 PM »
Ok Im with u so I do have a cad. Well why would you lock it? For performance purposes?
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2012, 09:48:32 PM »
Ive never used the cheap plastic warns, but i can attest to the strength and durability of the warn supremes. Had the same set on 3 different trucks, that have been used hard on and off road. Keep em' greased up only ever had to replace a couple of the cap retaining bolts.

As far as cad. Look under your truck, on top of your axle will be a vacum motor. If nothing on top of axle tube, no cad. Its super easy to perm lock it. Just some basic tools and snap ring pliers.

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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2012, 10:17:46 PM »
If you live any where that uses salt, the warns will rust in a year, and they do not warrant the finish.
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2012, 10:54:00 PM »
Ok Im with u so I do have a cad. Well why would you lock it? For performance purposes?

since you are installing lockouts it eliminates the need for the CAD. If you permanently lock the CAD it eliminates one more thing to fail when you need 4wd. Less moving parts = less things to go wrong.
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Re: Install Locking Hubs
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2012, 11:48:06 PM »
If you live any where that uses salt, the warns will rust in a year, and they do not warrant the finish.

We have salt, had mine for about 10 years, no rust. The clear coat has come off the dial, but that's it.
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2012, 01:01:12 AM »
We have salt, had mine for about 10 years, no rust. The clear coat has come off the dial, but that's it.
Maybe you have some from when they still used real chrome. The set I had in Pa, started flaking in about a year. Warn said F-you.
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