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edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« on: April 26, 2007, 11:32:25 AM »
Does anyone have pictures of how they have their edelbrock carb and 727 tranny kickdown mounted and adjusted.  I got the truck and the engine compartment was a basket case and this is the last thing that needs to be fixed.  keep in mind i have a generic throttle cable and universal mount for the throttle cable, original kickdown bracket that attaches to the manifold bolts and the edelbrock bracket, but no instructions on any of it.  pictures would help grately.  thanks
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 01:22:45 PM »
try calling edelbrock, they are pretty good about helping people out with their products.
Does anyone have pictures of how they have their edelbrock carb and 727 tranny kickdowmounted and adjusted. I got the truck and the engine compartment was a basket case and this is the last thing that needs to be fixed. keep in mind i have a generic throttle cable and universal mount for the throttle cable, original kickdown bracket that attaches to the manifold bolts and the edelbrock bracket, but no instructions on any of it. pictures would help grately. thanks
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Does anyone have pictures of how they have their edelbrock carb and 727 tranny kickdown mounted and adjusted. I got the truck and the engine compartment was a basket case and this is the last thing that needs to be fixed. keep in mind i have a generic throttle cable and universal mount for the throttle cable, original kickdown bracket that attaches to the manifold bolts and the edelbrock bracket, but no instructions on any of it. pictures would help grately. thanks
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 01:27:37 PM »
I was hoping that someone had some pictures of how theirs is set up because i'm missing parts and dont know what they are,.....because i don't have them....calling edelbrock wouldnt do much good if i dont know what im missing
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360 Edelbrock Carb & Intake, 727, np208
9.25 Rear, D 44 Front, 4.10 Gears
15x10 Eagle 089 wheels 35x12.50x15 Truxus Mt's
4" Skyjacker Suspension Lift with Rear Springs
borgeson steering shaft, adjustable drag link
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 01:45:01 PM »
Here's a picture of how mine used to be. If you want a much better setup and can spend a little money, scroll down.

http://ramchargercentral.com/boards/index.php?topic=51044.msg631776#msg631776

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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 01:57:06 PM »
thanks, k, I just noticed that I think my bracket is mounted too far back on the manifold bolts, i dont think mine is that close to the carb, but it may be, I will get pictures of it when i get home and see if anyone can help me out further.
1985 dodge ramcharger Royal 150, 4WD
360 Edelbrock Carb & Intake, 727, np208
9.25 Rear, D 44 Front, 4.10 Gears
15x10 Eagle 089 wheels 35x12.50x15 Truxus Mt's
4" Skyjacker Suspension Lift with Rear Springs
borgeson steering shaft, adjustable drag link
custom fabbed rear bumper with tire carrier

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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2007, 12:16:24 PM »
here are the pics that I was able to take for you guys, any help would be grately appreciated.  Do i need a spring from the trans linkage to the rear driverside carp stud to hold the linkage forward, would that help me out?

complete linkage setup



close up of carb adapter setup.


notice that i dont have the factory throttle cable, and this is what i was able to come up with.
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360 Edelbrock Carb & Intake, 727, np208
9.25 Rear, D 44 Front, 4.10 Gears
15x10 Eagle 089 wheels 35x12.50x15 Truxus Mt's
4" Skyjacker Suspension Lift with Rear Springs
borgeson steering shaft, adjustable drag link
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 12:52:46 PM »
the slotted end of the kick down is supposed to be at the carb, the single hole is to the rear. You are also missing the light weight spring that holds the kickdown forward.

See this picture (pic borrowed from other post)


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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 01:00:16 PM »
thats how mine started out, with a bolt through the carb adapter with one locknut then the arm then another locknut, thus clamping the bar at a desired position to allow for adjustment, but my dad's rc is the same way as mine, slot to the firewall side.
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15x10 Eagle 089 wheels 35x12.50x15 Truxus Mt's
4" Skyjacker Suspension Lift with Rear Springs
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2007, 01:16:57 PM »
The way hp383 has it is the right way.  You want the slot to the front and DO Not want it clamped down by the bolt.  Where you have the bolt on the front there should be a stud there instead for the slot to slide on.  Your also missing a spring to pull the kickdown forward.  If the kickdown does not give full position back all the way on the trans while at WOT then you could put a small bolt in the slot to effectively making the slot shorter.

Or better yet go with a full Lokar setup. Your halfway there and you can get rid of the chrysler adaptor.
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2007, 03:45:24 PM »


Before starting on the engine rebuild.

I'll add new pictures after working on it this weekend.
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 05:06:49 PM »
This is mine.. Had a lil trouble with kick down but once adjusted up by the carb and down at the transmission,  I managed to get the position right but my spring set up is diffrent  I'm missing the one by the transmission...I think I'm going to remove my linkage and paint it black just for personal satisfaction lol...

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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 07:15:34 PM »
Watch out there is 2 types of linkages. The 3 piece used until the late 70's, and the single piece.

any thing will do, you just need:
A slot for the throttle to go ahead of the transmission.
a spring to keep the transmission rod forward.
Adjusted so that the transmission is all the way forward when the throttle plates are closed, and the choke is off.

This is mine.. Had a lil trouble with kick down but once adjusted up by the carb and down at the transmission,  I managed to get the position right but my spring set up is diffrent  I'm missing the one by the transmission...I think I'm going to remove my linkage and paint it black just for personal satisfaction lol...
  You really should have the spring that pulls the trans rod forward.

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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #12 on: August 1, 2011, 11:01:10 PM »
Yes I seriously agree.. I also noticed that the linkage and throttle cable is on the same spot.. I might have to see what happens if I do that..  Here is a pic of it back together

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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #13 on: August 2, 2011, 12:46:06 AM »
This is mine.. Had a lil trouble with kick down but once adjusted up by the carb and down at the transmission,  I managed to get the position right but my spring set up is diffrent  I'm missing the one by the transmission...I think I'm going to remove my linkage and paint it black just for personal satisfaction lol...


I know this thread has been about factory linkages and getting them to work with an edelbrock my two cents is it's worth the money to replace them with Lokar cables both the throttle cable and kick down using their bracket it's clean and I believe the adjustment is far better then what you can do with the factory stuff.

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Throttle cable         http://www.summitracing.com/parts/LOK-TC-1000HT/
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #14 on: August 2, 2011, 01:38:00 AM »
The spring up front is more important than the one in back. The back spring is optional (some work better with it, some without), the front is a must.
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2011, 05:07:50 PM »
this thread helped me out so I thought I would add to it in the hopes of helping someone else out. This is not tested yet as I have to hookup my fuel cell, but following everyones advice (for a different situation) I did the following:
I was working on adjusting the kickdown linkage with a Holley 670 avenger.
I found that there was not enough adjustment available near the trans where I could even get the chrysler extension stud to go through the slot. Standing in front of my vehicle and pushing the linkage backwards, the slot was IN FRONT (closest to me) of the stud. With such an extreme adjustment in an effort to make it work, the long shaft that goes behind the valve cover was now banging into the firewall. Back to square one I picked an arbitrary spot (adjustment) on the linkage near the trans that would later give me any adjustment if need be (forward or back). Then with the engine off during all this (of course) I put a board to hold the gas pedal down all the way and had the linkage just hanging down near the carb. I pushed the slotted bar near the carb toward the back of the engine to find the spot I needed to drill a hole in slotted bar and measured this to be 1/4" in front of the factory hole. Then I drilled a hole next to the one that attaches the bar on the linkage. For this measurement, I just pushed the bar till the very end of the full range of motion was felt near the trans. Now, at WOT, I have about a 16th of an inch of play to the back of the slot. Then I put on the spring to make the slotted bar all the way forward at idle position.
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2011, 05:56:26 PM »
I should add that now my kickdown is now fully engaged at the transmission when the pedal is floored. Hopefully I did this right....(please let me know if you see any errors)
Forgot to add that this was for a '78 Dodge truck that used to have an older spread bore Holley. Of course I used the adapter and 670 Holley square bore. One thing I'm wondering is why the slotted bar was "too long" when it seems I recalled other posts that needed to add to the length of the slotted bar. I had to make mine "shorter" by drilling a hole just to get the stud in the slot. MAybe the spread bore throttle axis of rotation is further toward the front of the carb? Thanks!
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Re: edelbrock to 727 kickdown linkage....HELP Pics Added!!!
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2011, 07:09:40 PM »
Actually the factory says to adjust it at idle,not WFO. There is an internal stop on the valve body that sets the height of the throttle valve spool (and the forward travel of the throttle linkage). The factory method of adjustment is to lightly pull the throttle linkage forward against the stop and adjust its length until the pin on the throttle linkage just meets the rear edge of the slot with the carb at hot idle position. Adjusting the linkage so that the throttle pressure valve spool is bottomed out in the valve body at WFO  is not how the factory intended it to be done.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2011, 09:18:23 PM »
MoparMike72, Thanks so much! I re-read my post and need to make a correction to the way I wrote it as I was considering a couple of different methods I've seen posted and got confused (forgot) exactly what I actually did hours earlier. First, I'm gonna follow the way you said.
But correcting myself from my previous post, I essentially did it the way you stated...but it was entirely by accident!
In my situation, with the carb rod being too short....my intention was to get the slotted carb rod to fit with the extension stud...and I just happened to have measured this at the very back of the slot on the rod. (I knew I had to start with at least having the stud go through the slot- and I could adjust further from there). Now, this is what I find interesting and why the other method I've read about might be used:
I pushed the throttle on the carb all the way back at my current setting and it was very close to being the "end of the line" or "bottomed out" at the trans. I like your suggestion (the factory method) better. The one thing I didn't do was do this at hot idle. Is this critical and why? Thanks!   
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2011, 10:25:42 PM »
correction to above...my slotted carb rod was too long not too short.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2011, 07:42:25 PM »
Hi guys I have been reading and trying to decide. Now the kick down arm is just for freeway use right? My rc is just for in the woods. I wanted to put a floor shifter in anyway and i rarely hit 30 mphs. I mean wheel speed in a mud hole is diffrent but i mostly crawl. Do I need the kick down for this? Its all factory if I dont need it id hate to just toss it.

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2011, 11:30:34 PM »
Yes, you absolutely need the kickdown hooked up. Not only does it influence shifting, it also influences line pressure. You WILL ruin your trans without it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2011, 02:31:45 AM »
put a manual shift kit in the valve body..  no kickdown and full control of the gears when wheeling...
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