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your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« on: January 23, 2012, 07:29:59 PM »
i searched but found conflicting reviews on the Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37x12.50x16.5 (radial) tires. as i'm researching these tires i am becoming quite confused with the quality and performance of these tires. Some say they do great on and off road while others say they are down right scary on road and mediocre at best off road. i've also read that the 16.5 rims do not hold the beads well with low tire pressures.

i was hoping to get some input on these tires before i commit to a 16.5 rim. i can get a set of these for $300-400 with 90-95% tread so the price is very attractive. In my opinion, its hard to pass these up for the price but if these tires are crap i wouldnt want to take the risk of running them.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 08:27:30 PM »
If you don't have 16.5" rims now and you are not looking for double beadlocks, I would not buy any 16.5" rim now.  With that said, I bought 5 of the 37" HMMWV tires to put on my current 16/5" wagon rims and I love them.  They are not the world's best mud terrain tire but they do pretty good all around, especially for the price.  Mine handle well on the road up to about 75 MPH and do a lot better than my old bald Boggers did off road.  For a $100 tire, they are great, compared to a more expensive new tire, they are only about average.

As for holding the bead, 16.5" rims were designed to be mounted and dismounted with minimal tools much like the old split ring rims.  They do not have the lump on the inside of the rim that a 15" or 16" rims does that the tire bead has to "pop" over that holds it in place even if there is little or no air in the tire.  A 16.5" tire will collapse if run too low on air pressure and would need the bead re-seated.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 08:34:24 PM »
I don't really have an opinion on the tires. Like you, I have heard both good and bad about them.

But 16.5 rims, that is something that I have had experience with. Other than beadlock wheels, all 16.5 that I have seen have a tapered bead. The center part of the wheel slopes up to meet the bead the area. A friend of mine has a CJ7 with 1 ton axles, 38.5 TSL's. We needed to air down the tires to get the Jeep through a low garage door one time. We were probably close to 10 to 15 psi in the front tires when all of the sudden the bead unseated.

If you'll notice on 15's, 16's, & 17's, the wheels have a "J" bead, a little ridge that the tire goes over to seat on the bead. All the half size wheels (14.5 mobile home wheels, 16.5, 22.5, etc), as far as I know, are the taper bead wheels.

Looks like Elenwil was posting the same time as me.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 10:11:28 PM »
Correct info on the half size rims.

Got a lot of experience with 22.5s and 24.5s......sometimes all you need to do is let the air out and the beads will come off. Rest of the time.....just kick the sidewall. Real easy to change.

Have 17.5s on my 25 ton tag trailer......you lose air.....beads come off.

From my experience, if you want to air down......I think beadlocks are the way to go. Not saying it can not be done......because I have seen where 22.5 and 24.5s were aired down on comercial trucks for off road .....but I have no idea how low they go.

 {noclue}....I have never tried low pressure. Every half size I have ever used.....if it dropped below 90 psi, I'd be looking for the leak. ;D

I too am curious about them in the snow.......the price looks pretty good....good capacity[I believe load range E?] maybe I will try a set on my Cummins.....hmmm if the rims are 65$.....I'd have to give it some thought. Good $$$ on "E"s are getting hard to find.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 10:20:01 PM »
remember the military tires were designed for heavier vehicles, with that said on lighter rigs they don't conform as well for traction, hence the "acceptable" off road capability, and as for military vehicles the claim is for a max speed of 75 mph or so. On a heavier vehicle I would be concerned about airing down without bead locks, on a lighter vehicle reg driving with low pressure wouldn't scare me, but airing down for obstacles would (again without bead locks).
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 10:20:19 PM »
This is what I'm going to use with my 37s:

http://www.innerairlock.com/beadlocks/
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 11:04:54 PM »
great feedback!!  ;D

becdino, i wish i could find 16.5 wheels at that price!!

cragdweller, those prices are crazy! why not just get these http://www.trailworthyfab.com/Custom-Hummer-Wheels/
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 02:08:25 AM »
It should also be noted that the 37" tires do seem to do a lot better off road once they are cut.  Places like TrailWorthy Fab will do the grooving for you though it will cost extra.  In my opinion, if you are looking for maximum off road performance, you probably shouldn't be looking at cheap used tires anyway.  If you need to compromise, the 37s are a great deal on a tire size you would not normally find so cheap, especially in a radial.

Also when buying used military tires, you really need to read up on the date coding so you can be sure that the slightly used tires you are buying are not past their prime and beginning to degrade.  Some dealers, like TrailWorthy, can be trusted to sell you good tires that are not out of date but they also sell off all the tires they buy that don't meet their standards to other dealers who try to sell them off at similar prices.  I have been to several guys locally that bought tires to resell that almost all they have are what I would consider "seconds" that have tread or sidewall damage and/or are out of date.  Some looked great on one side but on the other looked like they had been sand blasted.  It pays to know what you are looking at when shopping for military surplus tires.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 09:48:45 AM »

I take the point about already having the rims.....$$$ wise, the rim cost is what would kill it for me. If I came across a great deal on used......maybe.
 
If you put a lotta miles on, spreading the cost of the rims, would help too.
 
How it looks.......depends how important that is to ya. Like beadlocks.....real ones look great and functional. But $$$. Fake one's......look fake. Functional always wins with me over looks. Your truck....your opinion is the one that counts.
 
A little trivia.....I believe the reason for the half sizes......they were the first tubeless truck tires. Made on the half size, so they could not be mounted on a tube rim. The old split rim, having one or more lock rings, obliviously could not work with tubeless. If you think changing modern tires can be a PIA......try a split rim.
 
 
 
 

 
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 10:28:50 AM »
I liked them they were a good all around tire. The OZ tires rode 10x better than the coopers they replaced
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 10:53:05 AM »
I'm running/have been, but in 36s all in all I like em decent road manners and great off road characteristics, I haven't gotten stuck, yet, even had to pull a Ferd outta a deep soft muddy pond and I literally just barely ran out the clutch and ran just above idle no prob and I pushed a dodge dually 1 ton 4x4 with a loaded trailer across a mucky feed lot and have zero problems running some serious incline/declines on gnarly terrain without issue, I have noticed when the pavement is damp they seem to have a slimy or slippery feel to em but not bad once you're used to em, I've been debating picking up another set off pirate but 37s and I really wouldn't hesitate after using some
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 01:26:23 PM »
Have a set,I like them. Don't mind the road manors, just ride a little rougher. I'd buy them again for the price.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 02:55:50 PM »
I'm running/have been, but in 36s all in all I like em decent road manners and great off road characteristics, I haven't gotten stuck, yet, even had to pull a Ferd outta a deep soft muddy pond and I literally just barely ran out the clutch and ran just above idle no prob and I pushed a dodge dually 1 ton 4x4 with a loaded trailer across a mucky feed lot and have zero problems running some serious incline/declines on gnarly terrain without issue, I have noticed when the pavement is damp they seem to have a slimy or slippery feel to em but not bad once you're used to em, I've been debating picking up another set off pirate but 37s and I really wouldn't hesitate after using some
But the advice and info the others have provided is good to keep in mind

Keep in mind that the 36" HMMWV tires are a bit of a different animal.  They were all bias ply and use a different tread pattern.  The 37s are all radials ride a lot smoother and even balance out well.   ;D
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 09:50:13 PM »
great feedback!!  ;D

becdino, i wish i could find 16.5 wheels at that price!!

cragdweller, those prices are crazy! why not just get these http://www.trailworthyfab.com/Custom-Hummer-Wheels/


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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 02:06:02 AM »
Because I am going to run these:

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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 10:38:49 AM »
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 11:01:40 AM »
El its right, my 37's balanced out nice but if you have it done make sure they are willing to take the time to rotate the tire around if it's gonna take a ton of weight on one side.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 02:56:25 PM »
I used Airsoft BBs.   ;D
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 05:48:08 PM »
I remember buying hummer wheels with tires on them for 75 bucks a pop back in the day.  Another hundred for new wheel centers and for 400 bucks you have a nice set of tires and beadlocks.

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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM »
after reading everyone's response's and researching, i have come to the conclusion that these tires are excellent for what they are. One very important detail is the date code. it appears that when these tires reach the 5 year mark the rubber degrades quickly and this were most people experience problems. tires that are with in the 2-3 year seem to give little trouble.

a set of 4 re-centered hummer wheels ($800) and good set of these tires ($300-400) is a very attractive set-up for some one who wants 37" tires with lots of tread and double beadlocks while on a budget, like myself.

As for balancing, i'm just gonna use the airsoft bb's. i've tried to balance larger tires before and they just take a ton of lead most of the time.

cragdweller, those are some nice looking wheels!

now i just need to figure out what backspacing works well with these wheels. i have an 85 w150, d60's, 10" of lift, and will be doing a high steer setup. skyjacker recommends 4" backspacing with there 6-8" lift.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 05:56:39 AM »
I used beads to balance a different set of tires and that's probably how I'll balance all oversize tires anymore.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 09:09:45 AM »
The air soft pellets work great for balancing, but every time you stop they fall to the bottom and have to get up to speed to rebalance. There is a brand of balancing beads called Counteract that stays in place during low speeds and stops. All Tire Supply in Texas has them for about every application and are a lot cheaper the vendors on ebay.
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« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 03:16:14 PM »
My Airsoft BBs stay suspended right up until I come to a complete stop.  You can actually hear them hit the steel rim when they fall and according to my GPS, I have to be doing less than 2 MPH for them to fall.  The fact that they have to re-balance after every stop is actually a good thing since they keep up with any wear changes unlike normal weight balancing.
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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 05:05:53 PM »
The Counteract is constantly rebalancing too. It releases with normal driving bumps. You can also smack the tread with a hammer when you rotate the tires to release the beads.

I had used some balancing powder by the name of "Equal" to balance a set of 33x12.50 TrXus MT's on my CJ7. It worked great most of the time, but sometimes when taking off from a dead stop it would shake until enough speed to rebalance. The TrXus MT's were pretty bad out of balance since they were new, like most Interco tires.
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Re: your opinion on Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37" radials?
« Reply #24 on: February 1, 2012, 08:35:57 PM »
for those who run these these tires on dana 60's, what backspacing are you running? Skyjacker recommends a 4in BS but i dont see how that number relates since tires come in many shapes and sizes.
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« Reply #25 on: February 3, 2012, 06:38:13 PM »
It is winter time , how do the Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ 37's react to the snow and ice .
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« Reply #26 on: February 4, 2012, 10:47:07 PM »
what snow and ice?  {noclue}
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« Reply #27 on: February 4, 2012, 11:30:26 PM »
I'm in Newfoundland , life is good , if your a polar bear .  {beer}
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