OkieRam440 said:
Evildriver-3 said:
So the crank was free, you could have run 11's with a 60, i just can't believe the pistons and crank were $300, the crank is more than $300.
The point is simply that I could not come near building a forged crank, forged piston 360 for the price that I can build the 318. And if I wanted to go faster I would simply put on a shot of nitrous, which, by the way, my forged crank and forged pistons would handle much better than a 360 with cast crank.
Oh, and I am running in the 11s.
That is not true a 60 and 18 are similar to build, the 60 has endless choices out there for stroker combinations the 18 has 1, i don't know how you come up with it is cheaper to builda 18 especially with a 3.51 stroke that there is no off shelf piston for, but everyone has 1 off shelf piston for the 4 crank and none of them are cheaper than the 60 pistons, yet the 60 has atleast 8 choices in pistons in stock stroke and atleast 8 in the 4" stroke.
But if you are saying it is cheaper to build a 3.51" over a 4.0" 18 or 60 with much more on the shelf options then i have to believe someone is filling your head full of lies, let alone who is making these forged pistons for $200 and the crank.
However if you are saying the 3.51 is more expensive for the 60 i could see why since no one is destroking anything, and why destroke a 60, but why is it then the forged steel cranks are cheaper for the 60 mains then the 18/40 main's, same with the cast versions also, the 60 is cheaper then the 18 and 40 to build.
A forged 3.58 (factory 60 stroke) for a 18/40 main is $1300 same crank and 4340 i might add is $700 for the 60 main, the pistons also cheaper, the 4" forged.. the 18/40 main $800.. the 60 main $715 again 4340.
Cast 4" 18/40 main $350 , 60 mains $300, pistons are cheaper for the 60
Now have you played with a stock bottom end and juice, i can get stock bottom ended sb's into the 11's on juice, same with bb's, i have yet to see a cast crank fail. Even the 60's and 400's with there external balancing.
I have seen slight cracks in the wrist pin area of the piston (the bs and rb's but i believe it was that detrimental weight not really the mixed nos system), but not 1 motor ever came apart or had any failure and im not talking about your little 100hp shot either nor am i talking once or twice use either a week, were talking a few 15lb bottles a week sometimes.
Im all for experimenting by the way, god knows what i have added, removed, pumped thru, sprayed in, mixed together in sb's and bb's and strokers. Just that i have yet to see a 18 cheaper to do then a 40 and 60. I just finished my 5th sb stroker it happens to be based on a 40 and due to a particular thing i had to have this motor cost a lot, but if i did it differently the 60 still would have been cheaper.
As for bearing spacers, that is insane