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« Reply #100 on: September 15, 2002, 01:00:57 PM » |
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Can I ask one simple question? Why in the world would you lower your truck? It's just a waste of a good truck, especially a dodge. LoL, yea of course I've had the idea but we all have out stupid moments every once in awhile. The only things I think should be lowered are imports and small sport trucks.
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« Reply #101 on: September 16, 2002, 12:10:27 AM » |
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why lower a truck? why lift a truck? personal preference man. Some people like to spend retarded amounts of money on mass produced hot rod pickups (Chevy Extreme, Ford Lightning, Dodge R/T's, etc) and some like to build them on their own. I like my rides to be different. My worst fear is pulling up to a stop light next to a truck that looked like mine. I'm building my Ram for looks and function. It's my daily driver and I'm building it to be as low and smooth as I can get it. I'm putting on air bags for adjustable ride height and for towing cuz she needs to pull my custom Nissan to shows. Oh, I also build lowered trucks to get comments like the ones you just made. They make me laugh - and add fuel to my fire to build a lower and more wild truck. All of us who are into lowered trucks have been down this road with the non believers before. It's VERY rare that you'll come up with anything to convince us not to build our trucks the way we want to. Kevin www.EXCLUSIVESTYLES.com |
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« Reply #102 on: September 16, 2002, 02:26:29 PM » |
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you know its funny, i have a lowerd truck and a lifted truck and i get complements on both. i get more for my lowerd truck then my lifted.
a truck is a truck lowerd or lifted, as long as the person takes care of there truck. its a peace of art. lots of time goes into a persons truck so weather its lifted or lowerd and it looks good i will go out of my way to give you a thumps up.
so think of what you wright before you make a a** out of your self
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« Reply #103 on: September 17, 2002, 08:00:33 AM » |
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ok guys, here is the truck. i finally got some pics scanned in and my good friend lofrontier let me use some of his space. its pic 11 through 15. there not the best pics but you can see some. you cant see the flames in the front but there there. well hope you al like it
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« Reply #105 on: September 17, 2002, 09:53:56 AM » |
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rustynu612 what did u use to install airbags on the front? I thinking of converting to airride, but not definite sure yet. I know that aim makes bag plates, but there products are not very reputable.
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« Reply #106 on: September 17, 2002, 01:34:43 PM » |
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well i made my own. its not hard to do really. i have seen the kit for the dodge from aim and its not bad really. theres not much to mess up on lol. you can go with the aim setup it will be fine. i dont recomend there control arms.
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« Reply #107 on: September 25, 2002, 09:37:27 PM » |
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I HAVE NOTICED THAT A FEW OF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO LOWER YOR TRUCK. WELL I HAVE A FEW TRICKS THAT I HAVE USED ON ALL THREE OF MY TRUCKS AND THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THEM WITH YOU. TO DO THE FRONT YOU BELIEVE UNTIL YOU LOOK AT A PAIR, BUT I USE 1 TON TRUCK LOWER CONTROL ARM AND THE 1 TON COIL SPRINGS. THE REASON FOR THESE LOWER CONTROL ARMS IS THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT A 2 &1/2" SPRING POCKET THIS LOWERS THE TRUCK ABOUT 4 & 1/2". TO PUT THESE CONTROL ARMS ON YOU WILL HAVE TO DRILL THE MOUNT WHERE THE CONTROL ARM BOLTS TO THE FRAME AND USE THE BOLT FROM THE 1 TON TRUCK . YOU WILL ALSO HAVE TO CUT THE MOUNT WHERE YOUR BUMP STOP BOLTS TO ABOUT AN INCH & WELD A STEEL PLATE TO THE REST OF THE MOUNT AND PUT ON A FLAT SNUBBER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BALL JOINTS. THE BALL JOINTS FROM THE 1 TON CONTROL FITS IN THE HALF TO SPINDLE. IF YOU WANT TO GO AN IN LOWER USE THE STOCK SPRING FROM THE HALF TON. BUT, I DO RECOMEND THAT IF YOU DO USE THESE CONTROL ARMS THAT YOU ADD SOME BRACING TO THE LOWER CONTROL ARM. THE BRACING KEEPS THE CONTROL ARM FROM FOLDING IF YOU TEND TO BOTTOM OUT. YOU CAN DO THIS IN A FEW HOURS ON A WEEKEND. THE REAR IS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD EITHER FLIP IT OR USE DROP SHACKLES FOR A CHEVY TRUCK & PULL LEAF SPRINGS. I HAVE DONE BOTH AND HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH EITHER. IF I EVER DO THIS DROP TO A DODGE TRUCK AGAIN I WILL TAKE PICTURES & POST THEM.
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« Reply #108 on: September 26, 2002, 10:02:49 AM » |
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Hey, ya think that everytime someone replies to the first page of this thread dissing dropped trucks without reading all the arguments about it we just IM-bomb them? Maybe the point will get across that it's OUR truck to do what WE want with it?
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« Reply #109 on: September 26, 2002, 10:04:30 AM » |
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LOL! I was thinking something like that.
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« Reply #110 on: September 26, 2002, 03:54:15 PM » |
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Don't take the ignorant replies to heart. I know I don't.
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« Reply #111 on: September 29, 2002, 10:31:12 AM » |
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rustynu612 so is it more harmful to bottm out the spring or the truck i am trying to decide if i really want to rub the tires because they were not cheap
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« Reply #112 on: September 29, 2002, 10:48:23 AM » |
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rustynu612 can you get some pics of how you set up your bags and tank and pump and is it a dalily driver you know jack it up and take some shots so we can see what we need to do
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« Reply #113 on: September 29, 2002, 12:05:13 PM » |
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My Ram is pretty much riding on the bump stops up front. It does concearn me because all that shock goes right to the lower ball joint. When my front suspension gets rebuilt that's the first thing that's getting replaced. I think you'll hit your bump stops way before you bottom your springs out. Either way I think it stresses that ball joint.
If you're wondering about where to put your compressor, tank and all that it's pretty much wherever it will fit. With fullsize trucks there's a lot of room under the truck to hide a tank and compressor. the only thing you want to watch out for is to keep the comps in a place where they'll stay out of the weather - like in the bed.
If you use electric valves you can mount them anywhere. They're generally pretty rugged. For added protection use a water separator after the compressor. That way your valves have less chance of freezing up in the winter. Manual valves are cheaper but there's a lot more involved in hooking them up. Basically just a bunch of air hoze that needs to get run into the cab and back out again.
I think Bill can get you bags, comps, valves and all that. If not drop me an IM. I know a lot of people who can hook you up.
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« Reply #114 on: October 2, 2002, 02:29:14 AM » |
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i had an idea 94+ 1" drop coils and bell tech nitro shocks i think that will give me a nicer ride the 94+ coils i have seen are taller than mine stock but have the same diameter
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« Reply #115 on: January 21, 2003, 02:04:25 AM » |
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since this is the longest running lowered topic i thought i would refresh it and ask what are the best lowered shocks
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« Reply #116 on: January 21, 2003, 11:57:08 PM » |
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I put Rancho RS5000's in the back of mine. They work great! I wish I had used them up front. I bought cheapo oil shocks up front and they don't provide enough damping. The front end is bouncy and it bottoms out on the bump stops a lot. My truck is dropped about 6" and I have stock length shocks in the front and back. No problems with bottoming out the shocks. Bill (rustynu612) sent me some more pics of his Ram. I put them up here http://public.fotki.com/LoFrontier/cool_rides/old_rams-1/bills_ram/ |
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« Reply #117 on: January 22, 2003, 05:17:47 AM » |
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what did all you guys do about the shock mounts i welded my stock one to the axle http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=225379&page=5 as you can see in the first pic the shocks are all most bottomed out and the front has control arms and it bottoms out alot i have stock shocks all around i am looking into belltech active nitros for all the way around do you guys know anything about them the part # for 0-2" drop for front is 10046 and 6-7" rear is 10525 for new style rams i want to know is the front since i used control arms still stock height or not and i dont know how much i droped the truck how do i figure out what length the rear needs to be http://www.belltechcorp.com/pages/shocks.htmand i was looking at some toxic shocks but thought belltech was better waht do you think |
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« Reply #118 on: January 22, 2003, 10:12:13 PM » |
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I have an 83 ram I have lowered the front by cutting two full coils. I am running Chisolm's dropped shocks. Shocks are too weak. I too am looking for a better shock. Even thought about going to 3/4 springs or maybe a heavy duty shock and spacing the shock. Truck rides good and don't want to lose that, but is bouncy on rough roads. What do you guys recommend? thanks.
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« Reply #119 on: January 23, 2003, 05:40:46 PM » |
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Cut coils will ALWAYS be bouncier on rough roads. You don't need better shocks neccessarily, you need springs designed to hold the weight of your truck with a decent spring rate; yours used to be, until you changed the spring rate (for the worse) by cutting them.
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« Reply #120 on: January 23, 2003, 11:37:38 PM » |
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if you know the compressed and extended length of your shock any competent auto parts store should be able to find you a shock. Get the lengths and call Bell Tech. I made new lower spring plates and welded a shock mount onto them. The spring plates were left over from my Fontier after it was bagged. The shock mounts came from the HELP section in the auto parts store. About $6 each I think. I'm STILL waiting on my Dak spindles. I'll call Josh tomorrow and bitch him out  |
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« Reply #121 on: January 25, 2003, 11:29:31 PM » |
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Lower an RC? Good God man, what for?
Here in CA., the lowering kit would include dingo balls for your windows.
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« Reply #122 on: January 29, 2003, 06:11:51 PM » |
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where are these spindles at i dont see any new pics
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« Reply #123 on: February 5, 2003, 09:10:09 PM » |
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earlier (much earlier) in this discussion someone mentioned the possibility of using front coil springs from a 94+ truck for the older trucks. is there any truth to this? if so, what year trucks can use the newer, lowered coil springs from the 94+ rams?
i want to drop my '78 lwb 2/4 inches roughly. an axle flip will give me more drop than i want. how can i keep it to about 4 inches in the rear?
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« Reply #124 on: February 6, 2003, 12:52:54 AM » |
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it was i who said that i have not done it but the theory all works the front coils for my 90 1/2ton ram are the same diameter as the coils on my dads 2001 ram 1/2ton and the 94 ram i mesured at the yard the difference is the old ram springs were shorter by 1/2"
with the different spring charistics for the old to new i figure that a 3"drop spring for a 94-01 ram would give around 2-3" drop
the rear is the same way with only small differences my shackle is the same width but shorter than the 94-01 ram i think that was a 1/4" but i cant rember so i would say that a 4" shackle would do the trick in the rear
i was going to buy the western chassis 3-5 kit for the 94 ram but decided to flip and used lower control arms on the front
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« Reply #125 on: February 15, 2003, 05:46:52 AM » |
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if you know the compressed and extended length of your shock any competent auto parts store should be able to find you a shock. Get the lengths and call Bell Tech. I made new lower spring plates and welded a shock mount onto them. The spring plates were left over from my Fontier after it was bagged. The shock mounts came from the HELP section in the auto parts store. About $6 each I think. any new news hows the mazda I'm STILL waiting on my Dak spindles. I'll call Josh tomorrow and bitch him out |
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« Reply #126 on: February 25, 2003, 07:54:38 AM » |
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i guess this spindle swap isnt going wellfor anyone
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« Reply #127 on: February 25, 2003, 09:55:33 PM » |
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I've gotten a few emails from Cheeto. He's in progress with the spindle swap. His truck is a bit older and things are a little different so he's running into some problems. Also the steering arms on the Dak spindles are a little shorter than stock and are cast onto the spindle. This MIGHT cause some steering problems.
As for my spindles... having some slight problems getting them in. My buddy that I ordered them from thinks his account at Western Chassis might be screwed up. I'm going to try to sort this out soon cuz I want to get to bagging my pig.
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« Reply #128 on: March 8, 2003, 07:41:49 PM » |
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i dropped my r/c a few months after buying it 3 yrs ago. i did it the dumb way by heating the front springs. for the rear i pulled the 2 lower leafs out and had no problem with the pinion angle. i had to go from 235/75/15's to 215/70/15's and they set about an inch in the fenders with no rubbing. just bounced real bad cuz the shocks were bad.
i have since lifted it back up with 3/4 ton springs up front. i replaced the leafs i pulled and added a set of coil over shocks to stiffen the ride.
now that im putting in a stronger motor(bored 318) i plan on pulling the leafs again and cutting 1 1/2 wraps from the front coils. going for a prostreet look.
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« Reply #133 on: March 20, 2003, 08:45:21 PM » |
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mmm... dropped RC's... well i did a lot of calling and searching. i found out the i.d. for both the 85 trucks and the 94 1/2 ton are close enough to work. the 85 is 3.994 and the 94 is 4.07. now all i need to find out is what the top and bottom look like on the 94's. now i just need to get the money to buy a set. btw you can get dropped shakles for fords and will fit perfect. i can get a set for 50/pair. btw on the dropped r/c in the pic do you know anything about it i.e. owner and drop method |
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« Reply #134 on: March 21, 2003, 09:34:38 AM » |
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btw you can get dropped shakles for fords and will fit perfect.
i can get a set for 50/pair.
Can you give use some more info on the shackles? This is along the line of what I've been looking for. JT |
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« Reply #135 on: March 21, 2003, 07:37:32 PM » |
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all i did was go to my local custom shop and they said the ones for the late fords will work on the dodge. now the ones i looked at were a hair wider on the spring side. he said its the same for the fords.
i had a buddy at autozone order me a set of 94 dodge front coil springs to compare with my 85 springs. when i find something out ill relay the info as to weither the 94+ drop springs will work
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« Reply #136 on: March 21, 2003, 08:18:11 PM » |
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Any new information on the spindle retrofits?
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« Reply #137 on: March 22, 2003, 12:57:37 PM » |
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I've tried to chase down info on that truck. I saw it at Showfest in Greenville, Mississippi almost 3 years ago. That was before I owned my Ram. I talked to the owner for about 10 seconds just to tell him his truck was badass. I've had no luck finding any more info on it.
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« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2003, 10:49:14 AM » |
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94-2001 springs will work. I think i have figured out which shocks to get for my ram. I am getting belltech nitro drop shocks for a 99-01 1/2 ton chevy with a 4-6 drop.My buddy has a 00 1/2 ton with a DJM 4/6 drop and every thing seems to play out.
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« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2003, 07:22:55 PM » |
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so let me get this stright to lower my 75 4x2 ramcharger I need lower controll arms from a 1ton 4x2 dodge for the front & the rear shakels for a ford(what year) or a mid 70s chevy.
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« Reply #140 on: March 24, 2003, 07:41:29 PM » |
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after doing a physical comparison of the 85 and 94 stock front coils the only difference i found for the was that on the 94's they have about 3 wraps that are stacked. aside from the the height, diameter inside and out are the same. just taking a guess the laod rates would be different.
to lower your 75 if the coils are the same as my 85 r/c all you need is a pair of dropped coils from the 94 dodge truck and a set of 2" dropped shackles for the rear. just ask for a set for a late model ford truck.
has any one looked to see if the shackle sam makes would dropp a 4x2?
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« Reply #141 on: March 24, 2003, 08:00:40 PM » |
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btw this is a model version of what my r/c will look like. well not in yellow. i want to do it in suede grey with yellow flames.  |
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« Reply #142 on: March 24, 2003, 11:34:23 PM » |
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c'mon. don't tease me with that model like that. spill the beans. where did you get it and when are you sending me one? lol that thing is cool as hell.
I'm buying some Chevy drop coils for cheap. I'll let you know the measurements when I get them.
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« Reply #143 on: March 24, 2003, 11:57:34 PM » |
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i bought 2 of them from mountianmama. this one was a 4x4 till i got it. the other is still 4x4 and dont plan on cutting it. when i get done by this weekend the one in the pic will be suede grey to match my r/c.
what you think of lake pipes on a r/c? if all goes well mine should be home this weekend. cant wait to here the new motor fire up.
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« Reply #144 on: March 28, 2003, 12:00:34 AM » |
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« Reply #145 on: March 28, 2003, 01:02:08 AM » |
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Hi i am a newbie here but i have been workin on a 73 D100 which i am converting into an R/T and was wondering how to drop it. From what i have read in this topic the coil springs for a newer Ram (94+ ) will work on my 73 to lower the front? Just making sure that this is correct since it is the eaisest way of the ones that were discused.
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« Reply #146 on: March 28, 2003, 07:29:06 AM » |
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hey outlaw 78ca welcome there's a lot of good stuff going on here, I think you'll enjoy this place.. ok now what happened to the dak spindle swap thing did it work,or is it a bust
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« Reply #147 on: April 1, 2003, 12:19:32 AM » |
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94-2001 springs will work. I think i have figured out which shocks to get for my ram. I am getting belltech nitro drop shocks for a 99-01 1/2 ton chevy with a 4-6 drop.My buddy has a 00 1/2 ton with a DJM 4/6 drop and every thing seems to play out.
well i got my beltech nitro drop shocks put on yesterday. it's like a whole differenct world. the ride is very smooth and because i never cut my spring cup i was bottoming out alot now i dont hardly bottom out at all it is great just get belltech shocks for a 99-01 silverodo the bolt right up fit like they were made for the ram got a e-mail from cheeto and he gave up on the dakota thing and is having that guy custom make him some |
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« Reply #148 on: April 2, 2003, 11:05:59 PM » |
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I got some Chevy drop coils today. I'm going to try them out in the Ram and see if they'll fit. The ID is about 4 1/8 and the OD is about 5 7/8.
Along with the coils I got a Chevy flip kit. No way to really see if it'll work on my truck 'cuz I welded new axle saddles on mine. At the least they would need a new center pin hole in them because the Chevy ones are set back a bit.
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« Reply #149 on: April 3, 2003, 01:43:39 AM » |
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why chevy the 94+ dodge coils fit and so does the flip kit
I got some Chevy drop coils today. I'm going to try them out in the Ram and see if they'll fit. The ID is about 4 1/8 and the OD is about 5 7/8.
Along with the coils I got a Chevy flip kit. No way to really see if it'll work on my truck 'cuz I welded new axle saddles on mine. At the least they would need a new center pin hole in them because the Chevy ones are set back a bit.
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