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Offline moparguy0504

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dodge 2500 360 or V10
« on: July 19, 2012, 09:23:40 PM »
Im looking at getting a newer 3/4 ton ive found 2 in my price range. The first one is a 2002 2500 ext cab base model (vinyl seats floor cassette manual windows locks) 4x4 360 auto with 72,000 miles for 8900 and needs tires. The second I found is a 99 2500 ext cab loaded (leather power everything) 4x4 V10 auto with 99,000 miles for 7995. Im not worried about gas mileage or lack of more about the reliability. All opinions are greatly appreciated.

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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 10:55:27 PM »
You wanna pass everything on the highway but the gas station, in complete luxury. You can turn your nose at them SRT guys, because you could tow. more.

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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 06:29:07 AM »
Thats the problem im having the 99 is a more desirable truck i just dont know much about the V10. Everything i search about them for every one guy who wouldnt own anything else theres another who has had nothing but problems. 90% of anything i would need to haul/towthe 360 would do no problem. Like said before mileage doesnt matter i only drive about 8 miles to work just want as much info as i can get 

 
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 11:15:33 AM »
The v10 is a fairly reliable engine.  Its lack of a distributor means that it has to use a 2 pc coil pack setup which I've only had to replace 1 time on mine.   The truck has been very reliable and runs strong.  Seems to have alot more tq/hp than its rated at.   

I have both 5.9 and the v10 in reg cab longbed 2500's and the v10 is much much stronger than the 5.9.  If you want simplicity and easy to find parts for....get the 360.  If you want power get the v10 bc It however only gets about 11 mpg empty!     

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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »
That was going to be my next question is are general wear and tear parts hard to get and more expensive such as water pump, fuel pump, things of that nature.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 01:45:08 PM »
That was going to be my next question is are general wear and tear parts hard to get and more expensive such as water pump, fuel pump, things of that nature.

I thought most of the parts were the same since it's a 360 with 2 more cylinders.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 02:12:44 PM »
I thought most of the parts were the same since it's a 360 with 2 more cylinders.


It's not a 360+2. The block is completely different. I know that the bore and/or stroke are close to the same, but that's about it.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »
I've never had any problems with any of the 3 V10's we have owned.  I just bought a 2002 Quad cab 4x4 V10 with a NV4500 5 speed last month. I have been looking for several years to find one like I ordered new. The manual transmissions are hard to find and then you get a Dana 80 rear too.  The late ones have rear disc brakes as well. {cool}
 
As far as mileage goes, my V10's with manual transmissions have gotten the same or better mileage than any of my 360 automatic 1/2 ton trucks. Towing and power are no comparison.

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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 04:00:45 PM »

It's not a 360+2. The block is completely different. I know that the bore and/or stroke are close to the same, but that's about it.

guess I misunderstood the block.  I thought the accessories/pulley set up was the same.  I'll keep my mouth shut on this topic then.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 08:04:40 PM »
The V10 will outtow the 360 anyday of the week.

It is a 360 with 2 extra cylinders. But that means a lot. The stroke is a lot bigger than the 360's but the bore is within .030 of a 360 stock. For clearance there is no dist. There's several similarities to the early Viper motors but the truck 10s are cast iron. Realistically it's a mutt between those 2. Many parts of the production motor are more like the 360 but the basic design is like the Viper motor and the finished product is its own thing.

On the road the mileage for a 4x4 isn't likely to be very far. In town or a 2wd might see a significant change. But the V10 will significantly outtow a 360. The V10 was the gasser to go alongside the CTD for Dodge.

For the same money, I'd go 10. Seems like a nicer truck too.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 10:02:46 PM »

It is a 360 with 2 extra cylinders. But that means a lot. The stroke is a lot bigger than the 360's but the bore is within .030 of a 360 stock.

The block is completely different, and according to you, the stroke is different, so what makes it a 360 + 2?

  I thought the accessories/pulley set up was the same.

They could be, I honestly don't recall, I just know that the blocks are completely different, unlike the V6's which are basically the same as a SB -2.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2012, 09:01:26 AM »
The block is completely different, and according to you, the stroke is different, so what makes it a 360 + 2?
The basic framework is the same, really the reason it is significant is the bore size, rods, and rocker design. That's where it really shows being a 360 with 2 extra cylinders. A lot of the exterior had to be different to fit in the same truck and bolt to the trans they wanted.
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 09:58:07 AM »
rocker design can't dictate engine type, because the magnum uses a rocker design that is actually interchangable with several ford and chevy engines. As in directly swappable. Does that mean the v10 is a chevy small block?

If you replace every part of an engine with something new and different, is it still the same engine?

In all fairness, it doesn't really matter and has no bearing on anything. The OP is concerned about reliability.

Here is the way that generally tend to work. Turds die hard and fast or are repaired quite quickly, often with an updated part or more attention to assembly. The truck is 13 years old and has had plenty of time for defective parts to rear their head. For example many  v10s had crankshaft problems early on. Suffice it to say, practically zero would still be on the road this late in the game with a bad crankshaft, most were replaced under warranty early on. A select few parts may have a slightly higher failure rate, like injectors for example (on any engine). but the cost and expected lifetime from that is not even worth worrying about or factoring into the decision. Just like I wouldn't turn down a magnum engine just because the valley pan may or may not go bad some day. Bottom line, any engine running good today, will prove to be fairly reliable overall, expected mileage based wear excluded.

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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2012, 08:11:41 PM »
The basic framework is the same, really the reason it is significant is the bore size, rods, and rocker design. That's where it really shows being a 360 with 2 extra cylinders. A lot of the exterior had to be different to fit in the same truck and bolt to the trans they wanted.

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dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2012, 12:49:52 AM »
Is the bell housing pattern the same as a 360?
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2012, 10:21:23 AM »
Is the bell housing pattern the same as a 360?

No, the V10 in the trucks shares the same bolt pattern as the Cummins. IIRC the Viper V10 uses the smallblock pattern though.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 01:51:37 AM »
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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 01:57:08 AM »
The early years of the v10 had more power then the cummins. Found an old sales brochure I had. If a diesel wasnt an option I would get the V10 never had one though. Would be hard after driving my modded cummins.  ;D

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Re: dodge 2500 360 or V10
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2012, 10:04:52 AM »
I previously owned a 98 and 01, 4X4 Quadcabs, V10/5spds. These were for working on service rigs, and made sure they had 3.55 gears. I never had any drivetrain issues, and work dictated that we couldnt run a truck more than 3yrs old. 90% of people in the oilpatch run diesels but I figured, a gas job would be better than a diesel that rarely gets worked hard. Often managed 18 mpg cruising down the hwy, but city driving or pulling the 30' holiday trailer cut that in half-mostly due to a heavy foot.I personally loved the V10, reliable, more torque and horsepower than the Cummins, the only down fall compared to my dads Cummins was fuel milage when worked hard. At least my back yard didnt smell like a truck stop ;D
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