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40's on 7"?

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#1 ·
89 w150 reg cab sb

Plan is 4" RC lift + 3" body

Will this clear 40 ground hawgs ( which run small) on 15x10's?

I mean for street driving purposes only.  Id prefer not to trim the fenders.

 
#27 ·
Elwenil said:
Who said anything about high speed turns? I've seen them break on a normal wheeling run and the cab sitting all crooked on the frame which pretty much makes the vehicle undriveable. One extreme case was a friend and his '80s F150 stepside that ran a tough truck competition at a nearby civic center. On the 60 mile drive home they went off the road because the cab shifted locking the steering wheel with the 4 speed shifter about the only thing holding the cab on the frame. If you want to run them, fine, but don't overlook the bad points just because a bunch of mall crawlers haven't had any problems with them.
yea i see how it could happen here.. normal wheeling run or not its still wheeling and extra stress on every part of the truck.. not just body lifts..

you could crack something on a off road run that would show up until you hit high speeds on the highway

theres bad points if your gonna use them for both on and off road.. but off road rigs and mall crawlers are in a whole separte league and really cant be compared.

dodgethis12 said:
I just wanted information on clearance on this body style truck with a 40 hawg and 7", but Ill figure it out on my own.
sorry bout the highjacking... but no.. you will have to do some fender trimming
 
#28 ·
Why does this have to turn into a your gonna die if you run a body lift debate?  Theres 1000's of members here who run them....... nuff said

There is nothing wrong with running 40's on half ton axles for a street rig.  Geared to 4.56 or 488 with the 4spd it will be just fine for riding around.  Im not gonna drag race it.  Im just want to clean it up and keep it nice for a weekend cruiser.  And yes I like and want to put 40 GH's on it.......


That being said does anyone have pictures or a cardomain of 40 hawgs on 7-8" on a 1st gen truck?
 
#29 ·
dodgethis12 said:
There is nothing wrong with running 40's on half ton axles for a street rig.
If you really believe this you should just buy a Hyundai.

dodgethis12 said:
Geared to 4.56 or 488 with the 4spd it will be just fine for riding around. Im not gonna drag race it. Im just want to clean it up and keep it nice for a weekend cruiser. And yes I like and want to put 40 GH's on it.......
Gears are nice and all but how are you going to stop it? Keep in mind that this is coming from someone who owned a '88 W150 with 39's on stock axles so I know what the hell I am talking about. I also rear ended a Camaro because the damn thing wouldn't stop. Also, Ground Hawgs are pretty much a joke, especially if you are putting them on a mall crawler.
 
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#30 ·
Elwenil said:
One extreme case was a friend and his '80s F150 stepside that ran a tough truck competition at a nearby civic center. On the 60 mile drive home they went off the road because the cab shifted locking the steering wheel with the 4 speed shifter about the only thing holding the cab on the frame.
What was the cause? All the cab mounts broke? All the body bolts broke? Or the bolts weren't torqued tight enough?
 
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#31 ·
Elwenil said:
Gears are nice and all but how are you going to stop it? Keep in mind that this is coming from someone who owned a '88 W150 with 39's on stock axles so I know what the hell I am talking about. I also rear ended a Camaro because the damn thing wouldn't stop. Also, Ground Hawgs are pretty much a joke, especially if you are putting them on a mall crawler.
There are tons of possible causes that your truck could not have stopped. Of course you blame it on your tires, but could have been brake adjustment, brake fade, wrong pads, glazed pads, road conditions, weather, or just plain bad driving. I didn't wreck a similar truck, but I didn't tailgate camaros. :p
 
#32 ·
Drew said:
What was the cause? All the cab mounts broke? All the body bolts broke? Or the bolts weren't torqued tight enough?
Two bolts pulled through the body and two sheared off. I think the one of the core support mounts had either broken previously or had fallen out but only one was left. It was lucky the body shifted in the direction it did because of the way it pivoted on the remaining core support mount. If it had gone the other way the fan probably would have eaten the radiator.

Drew said:
There are tons of possible causes that your truck could not have stopped. Of course you blame it on your tires, but could have been brake adjustment, brake fade, wrong pads, glazed pads, road conditions, weather, or just plain bad driving. I didn't wreck a similar truck, but I didn't tailgate camaros. :p
The Camaro incident was some jackass that decided to pass me and then hit the brakes in front of me. I stomped the brake and jerked the wheel into the left lane but still ate his 1/4 panel from the tail lamp up to the back seat. He called the cops saying I tried to kill him, lol. The truck obviously did not stop as well as it should but I decided to do a little brake test of my own. I took my mostly stock '84 Ramcharger on 32x11.50s, took it up to 35 MPH and stomped the brake. It locked the brakes up and slid to a stop in a respectable distance for a truck. I did the same with the '88 with the 39s and it didn't lock the brakes up at all and just got that nice groan of overworked brakes as it came to a stop about 3 truck lengths farther than the Ramcharger on 32s. For shits and giggles we took the dealership's '85 D350 dually rollback with a Dakota on the back and did the same thing and it actually stopped short of the Ramcharger with only a slight lock up of the brakes right as it was stopping. The brakes on the Ramcharger were well used, the brakes on the '88 W150 with the 39s were pretty new as I rebuilt them when I bought the truck about 6k miles before and were not glazed or anything and god only knows the condition of the rollback's brakes, lol. The '88 was my show truck and was very well taken care of, but I did drive it around quite a bit as it was a blast to drive and the chicks loved it. If I had it to do all over again, I would swap 8 lug axles under the truck and buy new rims and tires to get rid of the troublesome 9 1/4" rear and the 1/2 ton brakes. As an example of tires vs. lift, here is the '88 W150 in question on 39x15x15 Mickeys, 4" suspension with an add-a-leaf for a total of 5" over stock and 3" of body lift:

 
#34 ·
Hey, I can talk junk because I know what it's all about from experience.  I wanted something nice and that was already built and turn key so I got it and added a few things here and there and drove it.  I quickly learned why buying something like this is a bad idea as it had some pretty bad decisions made during it's buildup.  Can you imagine 39s with a TBI 318, 727 and 3.23 gears?  I had to be in second gear to do 50 MPH on the Interstate and then it slowed to 35 on the hills when I drove it home.  4.56s fixed the gearing issue somewhat and made it drivable but the 9 1/4" couldn't take the strain.  As I said, if I had it to do all over again it would get 8 lug axles.  The 9 1/4" eventually locked while I was in a turn and I rolled it.
 
#36 ·
Nope, built in the early '90s and I owned it in the late '90s.  A shop in Leesburg, VA built quite a few of them I was told, GM, Ford and Dodge, all with similar scalloped paint jobs.  It was actually a nice truck.  The triple double rollbar was actual tubing welded up and heavier than hell rather than the cheap bolt together crap.  It had a full size spare with matching rim mounted in the back, Ramcharger bucket seats, lots of Autometer gauges, straight duals, diamond plate all over the place and other details.  I added a diamond plate tool box in the rear, the PIAA lights, the side bars, a set of Hadley air horns with the compressor and air tank, $2,500 worth of JL Audio and Fosgate stereo, and a bunch of crap I can't remember anymore.  All told I had just over $38k in it.  It was very popular at shows and again, very popular with the ladies.  And yes, I did wheel it once, in mud.  Ugh.  After the week of cleaning that followed I never did it again.  I made them video tape it since it was only going to happen once.  I still have the video around here somewhere, lol.  ;D
 
#37 ·
Elwenil said:
Nope, built in the early '90s and I owned it in the late '90s. A shop in Leesburg, VA built quite a few of them I was told, GM, Ford and Dodge, all with similar scalloped paint jobs. It was actually a nice truck. The triple double rollbar was actual tubing welded up and heavier than hell rather than the cheap bolt together crap. It had a full size spare with matching rim mounted in the back, Ramcharger bucket seats, lots of Autometer gauges, straight duals, diamond plate all over the place and other details. I added a diamond plate tool box in the rear, the PIAA lights, the side bars, a set of Hadley air horns with the compressor and air tank, $2,500 worth of JL Audio and Fosgate stereo, and a bunch of crap I can't remember anymore. All told I had just over $38k in it. It was very popular at shows and again, very popular with the ladies. And yes, I did wheel it once, in mud. Ugh. After the week of cleaning that followed I never did it again. I made them video tape it since it was only going to happen once. I still have the video around here somewhere, lol. ;D
The means doesn't justify the end. ;D
 
#40 ·
Damn yall sound like a bunch of women. Who gives a shit if its a mall cruiser or not.On half ton on 1 ton damn  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
#43 ·
Earl said:
Damn yall sound like a bunch of women. Who gives a shit if its a mall cruiser or not.On half ton on 1 ton damn :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Some of us happen to care more about safety than looks and some of us take seriously the responsibility we have advising random people on the Internet on making smart decisions that may have a bearing on their safety as well as everyone else on the road. If I have to be a complete reckless dumbass in order to be a man, well then I'll just go put my panties on right now.
 
#44 ·
Elwenil said:
Some of us happen to care more about safety than looks and some of us take seriously the responsibility we have advising random people on the Internet on making smart decisions that may have a bearing on their safety as well as everyone else on the road. If I have to be a complete reckless dumbass in order to be a man, well then I'll just go put my panties on right now.
I'm going to be really disturbed if someone asks for a picture of this.
 
#46 ·
Not happening.  Now you know I would not have made that comment if I were not confident in my belief that standing up for safety was the manly thing to do.  My man card is secure and I do not have any panties.  ;D
 
#48 ·
You may have a bit of a point because I swear that roll bar weighed as much as the truck, lol.  We tired to lift it out to repaint it and busted a chainfall on it.  The chainfall as old and rating was unknown but we had pulled a few big blocks with it with no problems.  Still, I've driven other trucks that were pretty bare that had stopping issues and I don't think I would consider the stock 1/2 ton brakes on a bone stock truck anything stellar.  ;D
 
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