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Just like the fake news stories, the twisted surveys, the anti gun folks will use any method they can to persuade the lawmakers, and the public.

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Stockman said that in response to Obama's call for people to tweet their congressman in support of gun control legislation, he received just 16 tweets. But he said all of these messages were identical, and that a closer look at them revealed that only six were from real people.

"The other 10 are fake, computer-generated spambots," his office said in a press release. As evidence, he said these 10 tweets use default graphics and names, and have not engaged in any interaction with other people. Two of the tweets were sent at nearly the same time, and both follow just one person: Brad Schenck, Obama's former digital strategist.

Stockman also added that only one of the six tweets from real people is a constituent of his in Texas.

Stockman said Obama's anti-gun activists "are trying to defraud Congress using the same scam that sells 'male enhancement pills.'"


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    Figures. POS mf'ers. Used to be truth always won but now it's all about disinformation. Wait, disinformation, don't we use that strategy in war?
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    And then we have this:

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    The letter was originally published in the Carteret County News-Times on Jan. 23. It went viral on the Web after a reader linked it to a Fox News Facebook page.)

     



     

    Beaufort, N.C.

    Jan. 17, 2013

    TO THE EDITOR:

    Republicans and ďso-calledĒ conservatives are at it again. They are claiming that the Constitution gives people the right to have guns without the permission of the government. If that were true, then how could New York and Chicago have laws against it?

    We Democrats are sick and tired of Republicans constantly using the Constitution to cover up their true plans, which are to make us all afraid of everyone else. Our great president came from a civilized part of the country where there is strict gun control, and he is only trying to bring the benefits of that more modern way of living to the rest of us. I donít know the exact statistics, but Iím quite certain that Chicago is a lot safer that Morehead City, when it comes to gun violence.

    But do Republicans and conservatives listen to the voice of reason? No, of course not. All they want to do is whine and complain about how gun control and wealth redistribution violate the Constitution, as if the Constitution were all that great, anyway. There are a lot of things that need to be changed about the Constitution, Iíd say, and President Obama needs to change it.   

    The Republicans are just trying to stand in the way, because the president is black. They even dared to question whether he was born in this country. I think all this demonstrates that the Constitution needs to be amended when it comes to the qualifications for being president. Right now, it says that a person has to be 35 years old and be a natural born citizen. Well, that is obviously unfair because there are a great many otherwise qualified people who cannot run for president because their mothers had to have a C-section.  But because the Constitution was written a hundred years ago, nobody even thought of the discrimination that would result from a doctor having to deliver a baby in this unnatural way. Now that we Democrats are in control of the government, thatís just one more thing we should change in our drive to make life fair. 

    Please withhold my name because I donít want to get crank calls.

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    And this boys and girls, is why we can't have nice things.

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    I worked  down town CHi town for about 5 years ..I have been sitting at traffic lights at 3 AM  and have seen people get shot 1/2 block up the roads. They say they have gun control  but if they  get caught with a gun it adds no time to a sentance.

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    And then we have this:

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    Please withhold my name because I donít want to get crank calls.

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    MO-ron - you ARE a crank call!  :P

    I'll bet MOOCH-elle could tell us ALL about Obama "faking it"...
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    Ya know, I read that and sensed that it sounded like it was written by a republican to make democrats look bad, or to make fun of them, then I googled it. Snopes agrees.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/modernway.asp

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    Ok, so it's their opinion that the letter might be spoofed. Nobody can either confirm nor deny that it is. Got kooks on both sides of the fence.

    But, to go along with "debunking" something I was sent a email on NC senator RC Soles and a shooting he was involved in. The email made it sound like this happened recently, it didn't. Happened back in '09. The email also said the senator(dem) was anti gun, he really wasn't. He was pro, at least according to the NRA ratings they gave him. Emails like that I do like to "reply all" and try and get facts out there, whether I like what the facts are or not.

    This is in response to the letter to editor, not the twitter part.
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    I really don't give a shit where the letter came from.

    I do care that the GOVERNMENT is engaged in activities to undermine the Constitution.

    This is the issue.

    There are not two political parties, only one.  And that single political party is interested in making money by taking both sides of the issues.

    The biggest bit of evidence that is obvious is the fact that they passed legislation to protect their own salaries regardless of the outcomes of the fiscal cliff, or gun control or sequestration.

    The sooner the American people see this reality, the sooner they will understand how little power the citizens actually have.

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    Ok, so it's their opinion that the letter might be spoofed.

    My opinion too.  ;)


    I really don't give a shit where the letter came from.

    I do care that the GOVERNMENT is engaged in activities to undermine the Constitution.

    This is the issue.


    You know I'm talking about Jolley Green's letter right? Not sure if you are on this subject, or your own...again.

    The "issue" I am referring to is that there is a letter that everyone seems to think is legit, I am reasonbly certain it is not. That is the issue and why I posted.
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    My opinion too.  ;)


    You know I'm talking about Jolley Green's letter right? Not sure if you are on this subject, or your own...again.

    The "issue" I am referring to is that there is a letter that everyone seems to think is legit, I am reasonbly certain it is not. That is the issue and why I posted.

    Yes, I am tracking that issue.  This is what I was referring to.  I don't care about the origins of the letter. It is actually quite irrelevant.

    The relevant issue is that regardless of the origins of the letter, the government of we the people by the people for the people is not working for the people, they are working for their own financial self interests.
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    Not only that but, as to the original post, it just goes to show the length these clowns will go to to get what they want. I mean come on, false tweets. Kinda like dead people voting..... If people really feel a certain way great, let their voices be heard but to pull these kind of antics is complete horseshit. This administration continually amazes me with how low they'll go. Just when you think they can't sink any lower......
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    Like my prof said on the first day of Statistics 101 course. "Statistics is the are of lying".
    This trend has been going on for many years. you can believe any of these articles that say 51% of americans think obama is the holy savior, or ???.  Even reputable polling companies have been shown to setup the polls to achieve a set outcome. This is just going one step further, by making use of technology. not really any different then an internet petition, there is no way to verify who signs those, should we take them seriously? I wouldn't.

     
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    Yes, I am tracking that issue.  This is what I was referring to.  I don't care about the origins of the letter. It is actually quite irrelevant.

    The relevant issue is that regardless of the origins of the letter, the government of we the people by the people for the people is not working for the people, they are working for their own financial self interests.

    Ahhh, so you were injecting your own subject, but including a reference to what I posted.....for some reason.

    My purpose was to point out that the letter probably isn't real, so people might use their heads and realize the bullshit comes from both sides, and doing something such as this, and others believing it, just makes everyone look stupid, and quite frankly, embarrasses me as somebody who is mostly conservative.

    Remember, I'm a big fan of the truth. Bullshit, that supports a belief in something, is still bullshit.
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    Ahhh, so you were injecting your own subject, but including a reference to what I posted.....for some reason.

    My purpose was to point out that the letter probably isn't real, so people might use their heads and realize the bullshit comes from both sides, and doing something such as this, and others believing it, just makes everyone look stupid, and quite frankly, embarrasses me as somebody who is mostly conservative.

    Remember, I'm a big fan of the truth. Bullshit, that supports a belief in something, is still bullshit.

    Kendall,

    How was I injecting my own subject? I was commenting on the letter and the substance.

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    Before I get besmirched, this was precisely why I posted this NC newspaper letter under this thread as an example of "false" (?) crap from the other side.  On the other hand, I have heard most of those same sentiments expressed vehemently by liberal friends with mine own ears, so as off-the-wall as they seem all combined into one letter, they are all beliefs held by some.
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    Kendall,

    How was I injecting my own subject? I was commenting on the letter and the substance.

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    When you respond to me and say "I really don't give a shit where the letter came from" you imply that you don't care if it's real or not, but that it is still valid. Then you go on to say what the real issue is.

    Your "real issue" really has nothing to do with me questioning the validity of the letter. Remember, I am not disputing the pov of the lieberals or the perceived pov of the libs, I am disputing the validity of the letter. If you really don't care about the validity of the letter, and only want to continue a typical rant about where the country is going, there is no need to point out that you don't give a shit about the letter. This is how you were on a different subject than me.
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    I do think the left is better organized, and makes better use of technology.  Its to much to be a mere coincidence that you see the same thoughts posted at the same time across many different forums.

    There is no doubt that the demoncats are better organized, and has more devoted followers.

    Is the right falling apart? disintegrating? self digesting?

    Is the left hastening the rights death?  Its obvious that the left is controlling the media, and playing it like a fiddle. Like the 7 minute meeting obama had with the republicans yesterday, the media is portraying the meeting as obama wanting to work with the repukes, but in reality, it was nothing more then a seven minute speech. Control the media, you control the masses. Our country has been dying one small step at a time. A lot of it was many years ago, when the deregulated banks, allowed the media to merge, Ect. Ect. ECT.
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    When you respond to me and say "I really don't give a shit where the letter came from" you imply that you don't care if it's real or not, but that it is still valid. Then you go on to say what the real issue is.

    Your "real issue" really has nothing to do with me questioning the validity of the letter. Remember, I am not disputing the pov of the lieberals or the perceived pov of the libs, I am disputing the validity of the letter. If you really don't care about the validity of the letter, and only want to continue a typical rant about where the country is going, there is no need to point out that you don't give a shit about the letter. This is how you were on a different subject than me.
    It would not surprise me to see that it was an act from the left to post such a letter, and then claim it was an act from the right to make the left look childish. Nor would it surprise me to find out it was a letter from the right. Neither side is exempt from childish acts. Neither one seems to have a position that will stand on its own, so they will resort to influencing the masses by what ever means they can.
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    When you respond to me and say "I really don't give a shit where the letter came from" you imply that you don't care if it's real or not, but that it is still valid. Then you go on to say what the real issue is.

    Your "real issue" really has nothing to do with me questioning the validity of the letter. Remember, I am not disputing the pov of the lieberals or the perceived pov of the libs, I am disputing the validity of the letter. If you really don't care about the validity of the letter, and only want to continue a typical rant about where the country is going, there is no need to point out that you don't give a shit about the letter. This is how you were on a different subject than me.

    Ok, I understand.

    Let me be clear.  IF the letter came from a liberal, then the mindset of the liberals is stupid. 

    IF the letter came from a conservative, then the implication is that the republitards will stoop to the same tactics that the liberals use and therefore they are equally culpable in propagating the lie.

    So when I say I don't give a shit about where the letter came from, what I am really saying is that I don't give a shit where the letter came from because both sides of the "political parties" are douchebags and are not willing to play by any rules.

    Is that clearer?

    I do not trust that either side is willing to tell anything that resembles the truth, because neither side wants to lose.

    This perception that the parties are working for us is just bullshit.

    You want the truth?  Follow the money and see where it leads.

    This "letter" is just a propaganda tool.

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    And one more thing. 

    I don't give a shit where the letter originated for one very important reason.

    If they bring that idea to my property, they had better come well armed.

    I daresay that there are not many people willing to give up life for liberty left, they can come to my house and see if I am one.
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    Ok, I understand.


    Oh good, I wasn't sure anyone would.  :P


    I still think you need to find a hobby before we are all reading your manifesto after the fact.  ;D
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    You're absolutely correct, Kendall. My mistake  ;D

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    Much like the rest of society, the media and the government has turned the word manifesto into a negative thing.

    All a manifesto is, is a declaration of intent that is imminent and meant to illicit the changes sought by the author.

    I intend to plant a garden this year and harvest many vegetables.

    There,  my manifesto is complete.
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    See? You even took that too seriously.  ;D
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    You're absolutely correct, Kendall. My mistake  ;D

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    I was bored with the posts as of late so I've been taking a stroll down memory lane reading the kookery of days gone by....and it has indeed been quite entertaining.

    BUT!......I found that in this post, George coined a phrase that didn't mean much then....but it does now. George, you were ahead of your time.  ;D

    Just like the fake news stories, the twisted surveys, the anti gun folks will use any method they can to persuade the lawmakers, and the public.

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    You're absolutely correct, Kendall. My mistake  ;D

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