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Comey Firing
« on: May 10, 2017, 05:11:47 AM »
Now that James Comey has finally been removed will the next FBI Director be able to continue with the collection of evidence against the Clinton Foundation? This inquiry has been going on for too long, Comey doing his best to make sure it went nowhere.
It needs to be explained that President Trump was advised by the DOJ that the majority of FBI investigators had lost confidence in him, very frustrated by Comey's refusal to pass on their findings to the DOJ so they could then access whether prosecutions against the Clinton's would proceed. Trump acted swiftly on those strong recommendations by the senior officers within the DOJ.
Hillary would have fired Comey on Inauguration Day if she had won the election so the Democrats are just hollow vessels sounding off.
Comey illegally took it upon himself even after stating Hillary's guilt about her Email scandal to be judge and jury not passing on those findings to the DOJ for them to determine whether to prosecute. There are several people in jail now for lessor transgressions than what Hillary did, hers were what used to be called Treasonous. She was told not to have a private server but went ahead and did it anyway with disastrous results, agents in the field were apparently killed because of her small mindedness.
The Democrats are very worried now realizing that every illegal thing they did during the election will finally be exposed and possibly the Clinton's will have a few others to keep them company while in jail. It is like a house of cards falling down, they did what they did thinking that when Hillary won it would all be swept under the carpet. It remains to be seen if Obama will go down also as he surely knew about what was going on, he didn't pardon her before he left office because he hated her anyway.
Hopefully looking forward all American's can once again have faith in their leaders and Justice System as it has been abused for too long to favor a select few.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 07:20:43 AM »
    Lets remember that Comey was an Obama appointee from the get-go. We also know that Omama would only appoint people, who would advance his political agenda. The problem was that the political agenda became political corruption. Sorry you commies and socialists who thought that people like Obama, Hitlery, Pelosi, Reid or the entire gaggle, known as the DNC party would be for the little guy. These people transcended from socialism to pure and simple corruption. Being all about just the money and power. They didn't care about your socialistic causes, it was merely a vessel to use to gain access to fame, fortune, influence, and power. The very things you socialists hated. And when you guys had a contender in the fight, he was thrown aside like the garbage he was, and paid off by the corrupt.

    In retrospect Comey was part of all that. Obama was neck deep in the scandal. He appointed Hitlery to the state dept, he knew her background. Theres no way he couldn't. In all likeliness he was either on the take or actively participating as a partner. The priority in his world would had been to protect himself by shielding the truth at all costs. As such, Comey's first priority was to protect the then-president from corruption…except that Hitlery blew it and the truth got exposed. But the truth of Obama's culpability hadn't as yet been exposed. The fix was in and I believe Obama  threw Hitlery under the bus, when the s_it started hitting the fan. Comey played a part in that, and his motives were probably driven by making sure that if Hitlery was found corrupt, Obama would be untouched. But it was botched because they were probably trying to predict how all of it would play out, especially during an election. Or Comey was Incompetent even when trying to defend the indefensible.

    Fast forward to today. We know after the fact that Comey stone walled investigations. He had reason to bring charges against Hitlery and failed to act. Reason enough to be dismissed. You have got to think that Hitlery is shaking in her pants suit. Probably Obama too since it was revealed that he had been spying on Americans…


    Concerning the Russian-Trump connection. The Libs are total jokes. Now they are using this event to further advance their BS narrative, which is Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election. First lets start from the beginning. The whole Trump/Russia thing started innocently enough when Trump simple stated that Vladimir Putin was a stronger president than Obama. That was true. Putin ran circles around Obama at will. His planes buzzed our Navy ships with no retaliation, And Putin walked right into Crimea and took it over without so much as a rebuke from Obama. So while Obama was trying on a new pair of mom jeans and playing his 331st round of golf, Putin was riding his horse bareback, without a shirt covering his own bareback, and taking land. Trump simply revealed this fact, that Obama sucked and had no backbone to stand up to Putin. But Hitlery ran on that alluding that Trump must have had a "bromance" with Putin, and that BS blew up from there. Early on Trump was chummy-chummy with Putin, then Trump was getting exclusive deals with Russia, to now where Russia stole the election for Trump. Never mind the fact that her confidant John Podesta's email were "leaked" (hot by Russia) and Hitlery's own words were revealed to the world, and never mind the fact that Russia had more ties to Hitlery via the uranium deal she struck. It's all smoke and mirrors.

    With Comey out of the way and newfound interest in Hitlery's emails, it could be that we may finally see Hitlery standing before a grand jury facing charges of high crimes…My God, I want this to happen!

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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 03:18:04 PM »
    ugh ............  well ............ national new coverage said the investagators liked him and thought he did / does a good job as director ? I'm cornfuzed ,,,, but the infighting b/s ougtta stop , I KNOW lots of guilty people who got away wit "it"    screw clinten ( on purpose) and Lets Move On and get fixing what needs fixed , Ford Pardoned Nixon Remember ???     ( it WAS ford no ? sucks ta get old CRS ! ) lol 
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 04:19:17 PM »
    I disagree, until people at the top are held accountable for their actions, the division will only get worse. Nixon was pardoned in an attempt to stop the witch hunting, and bring the sides together. Besides, what could they get him for? knowing/ directing /covering up an action? Far different from reckless handling of classified information.

    We need to get back to having independent investigators, and not every group/ side handling a parallel investigation, but nobody wants to give up control of the results.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 04:57:29 PM »
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 05:56:46 AM »
    I disagree, until people at the top are held accountable for their actions, the division will only get worse. Nixon was pardoned in an attempt to stop the witch hunting, and bring the sides together. Besides, what could they get him for? knowing/ directing /covering up an action? Far different from reckless handling of classified information.

    We need to get back to having independent investigators, and not every group/ side handling a parallel investigation, but nobody wants to give up control of the results.
    I agree whole heartily with this, the people have lost faith in the American Justice System especially when the Clinton's are involved.
    I cannot believe but did expect the Democrats to about face and react the way they are now doing, they have been basically calling for Comey to be fired and now he has been they cry fowl, Democrat double standards.
    My understanding is that the Security Agencies like the FBI and their leaders is kept low key in the public forum. What they are investigating and their recommendations to the DOJ who the FBI are supposed to report to should be kept confidential until the DOJ makes a determination. If the person or organization that is under investigation is cleared then their reputation would remain intact and the public wouldn't form sometimes wrong conclusions.
    Unfortunately the Democrats and Obuma was a good example like to "Big Note" themselves trying to let everyone think they are somehow superior to the public. Obuma for instance would tell all that he was going to attack an enemy say next week giving them the opportunity to disappear or prepare better defenses. Comey was making statements he was not authorized to make and drawing conclusions he legally wasn't suppose to make. The only saving thing here is if he did keep things quiet about Hillary and passed on his recommendations to the Obuma DOJ, Lynch would have scuttled any further investigations or prosecutions, now hopefully the new incoming FBI Director will pass on all the relevant information and Hillary along with Bill will be prosecuted. Comey laid out her guilt back in July 2016, even a 4th grader can see that she broke the law.
    I watched an interview on CNN where they spoke with Kellyanne Conway, they would ask her a question then as she attempted to answer change the emphasis, to Conway's credit she was able to get the truth out and the presenter became frustrated. They earn their title of the Criminal National Network.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 10:02:02 AM »
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #7 on: May 14, 2017, 08:16:17 PM »
    Hillary would have fired Comey on Inauguration Day if she had won the election so the Democrats are just hollow vessels sounding off.

    I wouldn't be too sure of that, AC...   ;D
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #8 on: May 14, 2017, 09:00:07 PM »
    That last part of Hiltary's statement is probably true, I found out the other day that Comey had connections to the Clinton Foundation. Comey was well and truly compromised, Trump would have had access to more information than we mere mortals.
    President Trump stated he wanted to fire him but was looking for the right timing. Having a recently appointed Assistant Director in the DOJ who had credible standing with the Democrats writing that memo gave him the catalyst to get rid of him. It probably saved Comey's life as he may have tripped under a bus soon otherwise adding to the Cemetery that is inside the Clinton's closet, not just skeletons.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 03:22:53 AM »
    all I ment was "we" need to fix stuff NOW rather than continue the dumb bickering . 

      history   the first (IIRC) guy , H. Hoover , he had "stuff" on all the sitting presidents he served under , given our system , he had TOO much power .

     INDEPENDENT panel ?  think about that . How much do you really know about being hired ( civilian) by the "government " ?  If ya want to drive a snowplow for the state , ya go to "the" party chairman , ask what he wants ya to do "for the party" (put up election signs etc ?) then MAYBE your name get put on 1 of 2 lists the guy who hires drivers gets . you could be listed under "May Hire " ( may means permission granted / allowed ) or like if your family has a party history , " Will Hire " as in he has to hire you , even if your incompetent .

     civil service list jobs ? just takes them a little more ahhh "paperwork" either there is an opening or not , later ..hummm you wanted a promotion? not on the top 3 who respond , more signs can get them to do more paperwork and you get the promo anyway , called loopholes ?  anyway all these folks owe some one , same as the independent panel Appointees 

     soooo its just time to repair the mistakes , welfare in my state equates to 47 k per year , the same state hires degreed mechanics for 32 k , after (?)2 weeks the gov de-commissioned "the independant pannel" researching  corruption here ....here , there are fewer jobs every year , places closed that were here 100years ....
     
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 11:50:57 PM »
    situation seems to be escalating. Thing is -I can imagine tump asking something to Comey in a way that might be cast in a bad light. After all he is a business man and IMHO his style of business talk does seem to fit " I hope we can forget about this"...but what was the context and remaining convo. It's going to get interesting- I think
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #11 on: May 17, 2017, 01:13:17 AM »
    I can also see comey, or many other FBI personnel making up such a memo. Had the memo been true, and in the files, I bet Comey would have made sure the press knew about it right away.

    Is it obstruction of justice, when the president has pardon authority anyway? President Ford Pardoned Nixon, for any crimes he may have committed, to prevent any investigation.

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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 06:05:21 AM »
    Bill Clinton pardoned many serious criminals, Obuma pardoned quite a few terrorists also but due to his dislike of Hiltary he didn't pardon her. There's hope of her getting an all expenses holiday yet.
    Comey if he had any memo's about wrong discussions with President Trump would have disclosed them when it happened not months later. Anybody can write a diary after the fact to get a point across.
    President Trump is not a politician and he was elected because he wasn't one but a true believer in America and its citizens.
    The swamp has no allegiances to anyone but themselves and like the main players, the democrats have no conscious so lying is second nature to them if it helps fill their own pockets with money and get more power.
    I would like to see Trey Gowdy get the job of FBI Director, all on both sides of politics have confirmed he is "Honest as a Day is Long". Unfortunately the democrats couldn't entertain him now because he is a Republican and holds up the LAW. He has the right attitude like President Trump and can ignore the side issues as they are placed in his way to side track an investigation.
    Another name I have heard is Condoleeza Rice but she also is a Republican, she has very good references but probably would decline not wanting the garbage that will be dished out on the next FBI Director who ever that will be.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 09:37:53 AM »
    Obuma………….. but due to his dislike of Hiltary he didn't pardon her.

    A Leeetle off topic, but I honestly don't believe this for a second. Sure Hitlery and Obozo went after each other during their primaries because of their high narcissistic aspirations, but if theres one thing the Democraps do is, they always stick together and set their differences aside. To the DNC at large, what was important to them was one of their own get into power and out of the two, Obozo was it. Do you think that if the animosity between the two was that strong, that Obozo would appoint Hitlery to the position of Secretary of State? Which BTW was no accident or some olive branch to her supporters. It was done purposely and for a reason. Think about it…. Obozo becomes president, and with it's power, he is fully aware of Hitlery and the Klinton Foundation. Does he instruct the justice dept to investigate her or the foundation for fraud and corruption? No! He promotes her to a position where she can not only continue to corrupt, but use the power and influence of the United States to access foreign money. You see what it all came down to was money. As I said before, the libs like to call themselves the champions of socialism and their causes, but the Democraps have transcended socialism to simple corruption. Basically Hitlery is one of many money men in the DNC. Funneling cash to their coffers in order to finance their agendas and influence others. The DNC is nothing more than the modern version of organized crime, but on a grander scale, involving people in high political office. Obozo was fully aware of the situation and promoted it, because he was a part of it. But like all criminals, he was protected. When Bengazi blew up and exposed Hitlery, he knew what was going on and he was covered by plausible deniability. Of course that meant that he couldn't pardon Hitlery otherwise he'd open himself up to withering scrutiny. And she knew it. She knew from the get-go that she was on her own. Her gamble in this was she would run for office. It was a bold move. In one stroke, had she won, she would have buried any future investigations into her background, the Klinton Foundation would have renewed strength and newfound influence and they would have raked in cash, the likes of which, they had never raised before, making them virtually unstoppable.

    Thank God she didn't win. 

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    It is my belief that if Hitlery goes to jail, it could break the back of the DNC. She is one of the larger money people of the DNC and so far that line of funneled cash has been greatly diminished from just losing the election. If that line of cash is closed completely, it seriously reduces the money needed to continue opposing Trump. Many on the right think that Soros is the main money man of the DNC, but he has been losing money for a few years now and much of what he provides is already spent. The Dems still have other sources of cash, but they are slowly losing money sources to continue.

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    I would prefer someone else become the director of the FBI and Trey Gowdy to remain in his position as congressman. He was extremely effective in the house select committee, investigating Bengazi. I would love to see him prosecute the investigation into Hitlery Klinton if she should stand before a grand jury. Of course as a citizen, Hitlery may never have to stand before Trey Gowdy, but it's nice to dream.

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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #14 on: May 17, 2017, 10:17:40 AM »
    but if theres one thing the Democraps do is, they always stick together and set their differences aside.

    Actually I would say both parties do this.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #15 on: May 17, 2017, 06:34:11 PM »
    Yes I do agree that the democrats stick together but there was major friction between Obuma and Hitlery because of the 2008 primary's brought out so much 'home truth's' about Obuma. The democrats of course wanted a democrat elected and thought that the media and george soros being on their side, they would romp it in especially with all the Dead People and the multiple votes and illegals voting democrat.
    I believe that part of the deal the elites struck between them the clinton's kept up their own agenda against Obuma. Many things Obuma put in place at the end of his Presidency would have created problems for Hiltery but then the media probably wouldn't have reported it anyway.
    Read the thread I have just started, "There Back", the clinton's need to support themselves in the way they have gotten used to and will fleece even the democrats to achieve that end.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #16 on: May 17, 2017, 08:43:12 PM »
    I believe any POTUS can be guilty obstruction of justice while having pardon authority . A pardon prevents prosecution of a crime but if you are speaking of Tump pardoning himself, not only has that never happened with a POTUS, it still would not keep him from being impeached. As I recall from history class long ago Ford pardoned Nixon in the best interest of the U.S and put it behind us as Nixon had already resigned.
    Maybe Comey made it up- or maybe he's "getting his ducks in a row" (getting paid?)- I don't know. In my lifetime, I haven't seen a president under attack like this one and those that are attacking him better be right and if not better face some serious consequences for accusations that have taken the time and resources away from more important things-like protecting our country and making America great again.


    I can also see comey, or many other FBI personnel making up such a memo. Had the memo been true, and in the files, I bet Comey would have made sure the press knew about it right away.
    Is it obstruction of justice, when the president has pardon authority anyway? President Ford Pardoned Nixon, for any crimes he may have committed, to prevent any investigation.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #17 on: May 17, 2017, 09:39:50 PM »
    The memo, and the conversation in question, took place the day after Flynn was fired, at that point, Trump would not have much to gain by risking everything to help Flynn. Why risk everything, when he could easily have done like Ford, and pardon flynn, for anything he has, or may have done? Trump may not be a great statesman, but he is not dumb.

    An attempt at impeaching Trump, could very well backfire on the demoncats.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #18 on: May 17, 2017, 11:05:55 PM »
    The memo, and the conversation in question, took place the day after Flynn was fired, at that point, Trump would not have much to gain by risking everything to help Flynn. Why risk everything, when he could easily have done like Ford, and pardon flynn, for anything he has, or may have done? Trump may not be a great statesman, but he is not dumb.

    An attempt at impeaching Trump, could very well backfire on the demoncats.
    This is the whole thing about what has happened, CNN and MSNBC along with the Washington Post and others are colluding to bring anything no matter whether it was legal presenting it as illegal. They live by their Moto... "Don't Let The Truth Get In The Way Of A Good Story", in these cases they just make up stuff. If Comey did write a memo back then thinking it was wrong then he should have brought it forth straight away, everything surrounding Comey is strange. He champions that he is honest but his actions or lack of them prove otherwise.
    I wonder if he isn't guilty of trying to cover up a crime by not exposing it straight away, what are his motives, that answer I believe is he is fighting for his pension now.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #19 on: May 18, 2017, 11:42:44 AM »
    I disagree. Comey isn't a free man yet.  The Clinton's are still pulling the strings.  He's trying not to end up dead

    Find out what they have over him and eliminate it. Or expose it and fight to keep Comey alive. Frankly I think he's looking to come clean but scared and unsure where to turn

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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #20 on: May 18, 2017, 09:11:03 PM »
    I disagree. Comey isn't a free man yet.  The Clinton's are still pulling the strings.  He's trying not to end up dead

    Find out what they have over him and eliminate it. Or expose it and fight to keep Comey alive. Frankly I think he's looking to come clean but scared and unsure where to turn
    Yes the clinton's are still working hard to get back to their self serving ways, the death of one of Hiltery's campaign men during the election which the police refuse to investigate has hit the news again. Comey would be aware of the facts surrounding his murder as this man was credited with leaking Hiltery's emails to wicki leaks.
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #21 on: May 19, 2017, 02:39:27 AM »
    All this B/S and who's taking care of the business of running the country ? 

     idjuts are like a pack of wild dogs on a kill , one's killing and the others are so busy feverishly attacking each other , none are eating .

     never mind this tweeting , he said she said , they are getting nothing of substance accomplished ,headlines should be reporting governing , not politicking ,  make the needed changes , and move on allready . IMO
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    Re: Comey Firing
    « Reply #22 on: May 20, 2017, 07:37:49 AM »
    Actually I would say both parties do this.

    I wouldn't say both parties do that. The Democraps will go to the ends of the earth to defend one of their own, no matter how much they personally disagree with each other. But on the Repub's side you have several factions. RINO's who side with Libs on social issues. Never-Trumpers who won't support the president because they preferred another candidate. Linguini spines who won't go out on a limb to change the statuesque, or perish the thought, make a stand for the constitution. They rather go with the flow, than to cause a big stink, living in fear that they be voted out.

    No, the Republicans may have the majority, but they certainly don't act like it.

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