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« Reply #1450 on: November 8, 2007, 03:24:57 PM »

...? dunno - never thought about it I guess.  Besides...I don't know which picture I'd send in anyway  Roll Eyes.  Is it too late?

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« Reply #1451 on: November 8, 2007, 04:17:56 PM »

I think it's to late for this year but you have next year. They have started picking the final 4 that will go for open voting.

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« Reply #1452 on: November 10, 2007, 10:13:00 AM »

well I sent in one of my favorite pics but I don't expect to have it entered.  No matter, I guess I'll send in something for next year.  I guess I wanted to wait until the truck was 'verified', to make sure the stuff on it actually performed well enough for the project to be a success.  It's all good Agree.
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« Reply #1453 on: November 10, 2007, 01:16:11 PM »

After I get my new transmission, I want to get a pic of a massive burnout Shocked for next years pic of the year Grin.
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« Reply #1454 on: November 11, 2007, 06:11:56 PM »

Trying to figure out what's wrong with the power steering.

I know a stock system works fine, but I have the ram-assist plumbed in-line with the regular steering, and just like y'all at Moab said I think the problem I had was the reservoir could not supply enough fluid to both the box and ram-assist form the factory reservoir. 

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I cycled the steering through lock to lock and watched the fluid level drop almost two inches, maybe more.  With the extension it had enough to go lock to lock, but at the stock level without the extension I think it was sucking the pump dry and cavitating.  Thoughts?

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« Reply #1455 on: November 11, 2007, 06:27:34 PM »

How bout one of the Reservoir Tanks off Sno-Commander.  Not lying but the one i got at the junkyard (for the W300) has roughly a 1.5 Gallon Capacity.

Mounts up on the Fender/Wheelwell and the hoses route down to a Power Steering Pump with no Reservoir
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« Reply #1456 on: November 11, 2007, 09:49:43 PM »

I work with hydraulics on a daily basis... and it would make sense that you don't have enough fluid...

judging by the work you've done, I'm sure you'll come up with a good way to solve the problem.
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« Reply #1457 on: November 12, 2007, 08:29:40 AM »

Why not go to a GM pump with a remote resevior.  Then you can use as big of a resevior as you can find.
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« Reply #1458 on: November 12, 2007, 10:42:52 AM »

Why not go to a GM pump with a remote resevior. Then you can use as big of a resevior as you can find.

Thought aou tthat quite a bit - maybe one from a Duramax truck.  So far I want to keep the bracketry as stock (and simple) as possible.  If I can avoid fabbing up engine brackets I will - they're a real pain sometimes.
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« Reply #1459 on: November 12, 2007, 11:11:51 AM »

If thats all the extra volume you need, you could cut the top of the filler, and extend it with exhaust tubing welded in.

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weld a circular plate to the top, with a fitting for a hose, and use a remote reservoir.
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« Reply #1460 on: November 12, 2007, 05:54:02 PM »

Did you modify the pump to get more flow?

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« Reply #1461 on: November 23, 2007, 10:15:54 AM »

Haven't upper the flow but that is definitely something to look in to - thanks for the link.

Got some interior pics after the console was assembled and the rest more or less 'in'.  Still have some finishing to do but it's more or less there.







Console pad was made by my buddy Larry who owns an custom auto upholstry shop in town.  It is very dense foam padding wrapped in rugged black material...and boy is it comfortable, just the right height for yer arms.  The console lid is 1/8" steel and the base for the pad is 5/8" wood panel, and it's perfect for sitting on...or in the case of our German Sheppard...standing on  Smiley





hidden trash can - a real trash can that'll hold several soda cans, etc...and some McD's from Moab that I need to throw out... Roll Eyes



t-case shifter is easy to get to and operate.



The flash lights act as a great 'map light' too Agree



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as always, it looks awsome.  Agree
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Have to agree with BBD there. Nothing that youshowus anymore actually amazes me because I expect it now. Grin
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« Reply #1465 on: November 24, 2007, 01:35:29 AM »

Mad Max your console and dash look awesome as usual. great work as always my friend. Joe
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Have to agree with BBD there. Nothing that youshowus anymore actually amazes me because I expect it now. Grin
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« Reply #1467 on: November 24, 2007, 06:10:23 PM »

That is killer dude. It looks great.In case I missed it, what is that steering column out of?Is it a tilt wheel? Thanks!
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« Reply #1468 on: November 25, 2007, 09:40:50 AM »

In the center portion of the dash, it looks like those 4 black rockers switches (?) are not perfectly evenly spaced. 
For shame !
Oh wait, is the center space intentionally wider so the pairs are even below each gauge above them?
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« Reply #1469 on: November 25, 2007, 09:14:17 PM »

That is killer dude. It looks great.In case I missed it, what is that steering column out of?Is it a tilt wheel? Thanks!

It's from a '93 Ram, and all the ignition, cruise, tilt, and turn signal wiring were grafted into the new wiring harness.  I really like it.


Oh wait, is the center space intentionally wider so the pairs are even below each gauge above them?


Exactly Wink  Actually I'll be redoing the center dash - I am completely removing all of the dash-mounted air controls because I am removing all of the wonderful leaking air lines and air valves under the truck.  Once the bags are set I don't want to ever change them - that's one big thing I learned real fast.
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« Reply #1470 on: November 25, 2007, 09:41:12 PM »

What's that little red button on your tranny shifter?  Think

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« Reply #1471 on: November 26, 2007, 12:32:24 AM »

What's that little red button on your tranny shifter? Think


That's the switch to lock/unlock the front diff.  Works great, and a little LED tells me if it's locked or open.  Should also work the same for the ARB, when/if I swap over to 4:56's.

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err um uh..."Spraying"??  Huh  Smiley
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Im pretty sure he was refering to NOS
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oh 'der'  Tongue - right, uh no, negative NOS.  EFI is about as exotic as I wanna get....but we are having fun thinking about what to do with the engine that'll go in the Charger...but that's so far down the road I'm just hoping there'll be gas still available  Tongue.
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but we are having fun thinking about what to do with the engine that'll go in the Charger...- S


Turbo it. have a look at http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?board=21.0 do some reading. Its not that exotic as everbody is saying. And once you've driven your creation it was well worth the effort IMO. You just need to read up on turboing a gas engine and with your fab skills the fabrication isn't gonna be a problem.

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« Reply #1476 on: November 26, 2007, 01:52:19 PM »

Turbo it. have a look at http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?board=21.0 do some reading. Its not that exotic as everbody is saying. And once you've driven your creation it was well worth the effort IMO. You just need to read up on turboing a gas engine and with your fab skills the fabrication isn't gonna be a problem.


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« Reply #1478 on: November 26, 2007, 08:57:09 PM »

oh 'der' Tongue - right, uh no, negative NOS. EFI is about as exotic as I wanna get....but we are having fun thinking about what to do with the engine that'll go in the Charger...but that's so far down the road I'm just hoping there'll be gas still available Tongue.
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« Reply #1479 on: November 27, 2007, 05:41:09 PM »

We're definitely thinking 'boost'...but with a different kind of twirrly-spinny thingie Cool.....all built for the street 'pro-touring' style.  But again.....way, way, way down the road. 

My wife and I are in uber-serious debt removal mode Agree.  We are fully commited to getting debt-free as soon as possible (it won't take long), investing heavy in the future, and paying off the mortgage w/in 10 yrs.  Making some sacrifices now (eating out less, little to no splurging, etc) adds up to very big gains in no time.  Once the debt is gone (save for the mortgage) we'll be able to build savings fast, and, as we're planning kids we're already saving for them.  We know how, and we both co-authored the page we're on, and we're excited about achieving no-debt-dom.  It's kind of like a diet - getting it off and keeping it off. 

Anyone interested in getting smarter about money and learning how to build and fund a 'future' should read a book by Dave Ramsey called the 'Total Money Makeover'.  It isn't rocket science but it does put things into great perspective and makes total sense.  It is a great book.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with dreaming - that's how both she and I got where we are today, and it doesn't suck.  Make good decisions, work hard, enjoy and do the most that you can with what you have, don't spend more than what you make - ever, and put some of it away, and when that's all good to go...play when there's extra  Smiley.

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« Reply #1480 on: November 27, 2007, 07:02:12 PM »

That is great advice to anyone out there! I like how you are planning for  kids that will help a ton. Once they are here they are great but time and money fall short.My goal is to do the best I can for mine and my project goes with the flow.  I love it when I here of responsible choices being made (or even dreaming of LOL) Keep up the greatness!
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« Reply #1481 on: November 27, 2007, 10:37:49 PM »

Been a couple of weeks since I checked out your rig thread...
Must say, I'm diggin the cockpit set-up!
I have really enjoyed your progress shots.

I have a question.  I have a four wheel magazine (forgot which one in particular) that discussed 4 link suspensions and went on to go into an appreciable level of detail on angles, dimensions, guidelines, etc...  Certainly enough to design and construct a fundamentally correct set-up.  However, it was for the REAR. 
Would the same guidelines apply to the front except reverse?
I was hoping they would have addressed this but nothing...  I have a suspension engineering book but it doesn't address off road suspension.

Your spin on this would be greatly appreciated!
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« Reply #1482 on: November 27, 2007, 11:56:50 PM »

My pleasure  Smiley

Besides strength, the biggest factor with 'linked' suspensions is the side-to-side control.  Front to rear stability is pretty easy with either a 3 or 4 link, but keeping the axle square to the frame during a real hard side impact, like say sliding the front end 3 feet sideways off a rock face and into the nearest rut, is absolutely critical, and it has to sustain that impact over and over again....just like slaming the back end into a curb.
The problem with fronts is the steering.  Actually it's not a problem but more of an additional factor.  With steerable ends there is inherant weakness, hence big Dana 60's and 70's, even 80's in the front.  With that much beef the front end can take the side loads.  But building a linked setup that can take the same loads as a set of leafs is a matter of big strength.
The rear doesn't have quite the same problem as the front because the rears are so much stonger and they can take an angled shot better than a front end.  When you approach a 2-foot high wall square on, the front end doesn't have any big problem getting over because both tires are grabbing the same way and the suspension is pretty much indifferent.  But, approach the same wall at an angle where only the left front hits first, then as the tire grabs and tries to go up and over it also puts tremendous torque on the axle housing in relation to the suspension keeping it 'square'.  A 4-link front is much stronger than a 3-link front in this case because there are two arms at that corner trying to keep the axle square.  With a 3-link there can be a tendancy for the axle to wrap backwards, which can put a heck of a strain on the links, especially the bridge mount.
Now, steel is strong stuff, and I was going to do a 3-link if I couldn't get the front 4-link figured out.  With the weight I have in this rig I would have been a little anxious about a front 3-link, but we were going to use some uber huge rod ends, again, especially on the bridge mount. 
With big enough tubing and strong enough rod ends you can build nearly any suspension system and it will work. 
A rear 3-link isn't as bad because you typically don't find yourself driving over walls backwards, meaning the tires are following along and not also trying to steer.  But, once up on that wall the rear has to follow, and at those 45* angles going up and over I take it easy applying torque slow and steady, not the punch and snap approach.
The 3-links are all about the bridge mount - the mount for the upper wishbone link above the axle.  Lots of versions.

Ideally, a front 4-link and a rear 4-link is great.  Problem with a rear can sometimes be the crosslink, or panhard bar.  Getting it mounted square enough not to cause arch and bumpsteer problems it tough, and it is exactly that which I was fighting recently with my front 4-link, but I think I got it squared away.  I just got the welding and painting done this evening, and will be reassembling tomorrow and road testing.  Keeping fingers crossed.

Hope that helped some - if not ask away and I'll tell you what I can  Wink

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« Reply #1483 on: November 29, 2007, 06:28:51 PM »

Anyone interested in getting smarter about money and learning how to build and fund a 'future' should read a book by Dave Ramsey called the 'Total Money Makeover'. It isn't rocket science but it does put things into great perspective and makes total sense. It is a great book.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with dreaming - that's how both she and I got where we are today, and it doesn't suck. Make good decisions, work hard, enjoy and do the most that you can with what you have, don't spend more than what you make - ever, and put some of it away, and when that's all good to go...play when there's extra Smiley.

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« Reply #1484 on: December 14, 2007, 03:20:32 PM »

I know that you are busy with the new project but do you still have plans on putting the wiring dirgram up.
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« Reply #1485 on: December 16, 2007, 10:01:51 PM »

nope, we don't have the schymatic yet but I do want to do one.  It'll prolly be a while.  I do have the fuse and relay locations maped out tho, but nothing formal.

Tested the winch today (for the first time).  The injection pump in Trevor's '99 Cummins crapped out and we hauled it up to ATS in Denver this afternoon, but, first we had to load 7000 lbs-worth of Dodge Ram onto a flatbed, and I just happened to have a winch....



We yanked it onto the street and then using a snach block we winched it up onto the flatbed.  It worked great and the winch and suspension performed perfectly Agree.





Then, we hauled it 1.5 hrs North to Denver behind my '93 Cummins, which was up in Denver yesterday for a dyno gig at GAM Motorsports, where it slapped down a nice 308 hp and 620 tq, and thanks to a new ATS manifold and 14cm wastegated collar (installed Friday...the day before the dyno) it pulled that truck and trailer uphill like it was half the weight.  Lovin' it.



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show off!! how'd you manage to put your winch cable on backwards?
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show off!! how'd you manage to put your winch cable on backwards?
Its not on backwards I have the same winch, Superwinch has the first 10 feet painted red as well as the last.
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« Reply #1488 on: December 18, 2007, 09:10:34 PM »

EMPERORDAVE to my rescue!  Grin  Yeah it's painted red so that as I'm steadying the cable to keep it firm as I'm spooling it back in it'll 'tell' me that I'm about to lose my hand...

I've got an appointment at KAZ in early Jan to dyno the RC to get the EFI dialed in.  It is both too lean and detonating under load - gotta figure it out because I can't put too much pedal to 'er without possible damage.  We'll get it...

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« Reply #1489 on: December 18, 2007, 09:51:38 PM »

have you had a chance to see how the aftermarket EFI performs, say start and warm up, in sub-zero temps?
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« Reply #1490 on: December 18, 2007, 11:38:20 PM »

Max, what master cylinder/brake booster are you using?
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EMPERORDAVE to my rescue!  Grin  Yeah it's painted red so that as I'm steadying the cable to keep it firm as I'm spooling it back in it'll 'tell' me that I'm about to lose my hand...

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aah, but what's the fun in that? i was feeding mine once with Ang running the button and almost lost a few fingers. the hook hit something on the way in and bounced, hit me in the shoulder and tryed to get me caught up in the cable..all the while she's holding that button down.. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1492 on: December 19, 2007, 05:48:44 PM »

Max-is that the garage that you built Nacho in or was it a different one??  That looks alot smaller but still a nice size. If that's the one how did the neighbors like all the late nights?
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« Reply #1493 on: December 19, 2007, 07:48:27 PM »

Max-is that the garage that you built Nacho in or was it a different one?? That looks alot smaller but still a nice size. If that's the one how did the neighbors like all the late nights?


Naw, that's out front of Trevor's place - here's where the Nacho was built (this is a pic of a Cummins gig I hosted last April - the Nacho is on the far right w/o the top)



And I took a cool shot comparing the RC to my Ram - uhhh, yeah, the RC is lifted for sure  Wink





Max, what master cylinder/brake booster are you using?


It's a matched set (new from NAPA) from an '84 RC - straight up

have you had a chance to see how the aftermarket EFI performs, say start and warm up, in sub-zero temps?
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So far I'm pretty happy.  The worst case was at Moab in the heat, idling all day, stopping/starting a bunch - no sweat.  I know it is too lean and has too much timing and both are causing detonation.  We'll fix it on the dyno.  Unfortunately it was that way at Moab and I'm not sure if it did any damage, but, as my pop would say, "that's the 'joy' of owning a race car".  It's due for an oil change so I'll look hard for any bright sparkly stuff, and I need to change the plugs.  I'll get it.

aah, but what's the fun in that? i was feeding mine once with Ang running the button and almost lost a few fingers. the hook hit something on the way in and bounced, hit me in the shoulder and tryed to get me caught up in the cable..all the while she's holding that button down.. Roll Eyes


 Shocked  Yeah there's no doubt that the harder ya 'wheel the more ya have to stay alert to avoid getting busted up - so easy to get hurt.  But, then again, ya gotta go get dirty and have some fun...otherwise ya don't learn anything...and besided...being over cautious is boring!  Grin

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« Reply #1494 on: December 19, 2007, 09:08:25 PM »

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What are the chances of you having the Napa part numbers for the MC and Brake Booster handy? Is this the one?

brake booster and MC

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Hey Sam how long is your track bar? I have to come up with something different for mine, so I can install my ram assist, and I'm just trying to get some ideas.  Thanks!
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« Reply #1496 on: December 19, 2007, 09:13:22 PM »

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brake booster and MC

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Yeah, what John said, and.... are you running rear disc brakes?
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« Reply #1497 on: December 19, 2007, 09:19:53 PM »

I take that back... I was pretty sure, but went back to an earlier page & verified you do have rear discs.

How is your pedal pressure, and brake response w/that master cylinder?

I was told not to use the 70's master cylinders w/discs in the rear because it would take too much pedal pressure, and stopping power would be reduced.
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« Reply #1498 on: December 20, 2007, 12:32:09 AM »

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What are the chances of you having the Napa part numbers for the MC and Brake Booster handy? Is this the one?

brake booster and MC

Thanks,

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Hiya John!  Smiley  yeah that looks like the setup with the difference being the m-cylinder top plastic reservoir missing.  I got the m-cylinder complete with a reservoir.  There seem to be either aluminum or iron base housings and I think they are interchangable.  The aluminum unit is thicker tho.  I think all the Rams had the same systems, even 1 tons.  So far my brakes have been pretty good.  I have been adjusting the push rod between the m-cylinder and the booster to get the optimum 'pedal'.  It is very, very touchy between too much and too little.  Extemd it too much and the rear discs seem to drag a bit too much because they have too much pressure, but retract the rod and the brakes come on later than I'd like.  I'm still tweaking it but it's definitely a good pedal.  Getting the air out of the rear calipers was kind of a beyotch - had to remove them from the rotor and tap them to get the air bubbles out, but it worked great at Moab.

Hey Sam how long is your track bar? I have to come up with something different for mine, so I can install my ram assist, and I'm just trying to get some ideas. Thanks!


Aaron - it's not very long at all - maybe 26" - no where as long as the one in your 2nd gen.  That is one of the problems with my 4-link.  Ideally a 4-link'd front should have equal length track bar and steering bar (if you have crossover steering) so the angles are equal throughout articulation - mine aren't, but, it's not bad right now at all, and off-roading is very slow usually so the differences are negligable.

I take that back... I was pretty sure, but went back to an earlier page & verified you do have rear discs.

How is your pedal pressure, and brake response w/that master cylinder?

I was told not to use the 70's master cylinders w/discs in the rear because it would take too much pedal pressure, and stopping power would be reduced.


Brad - Not sure, but I have a manual proportioning valve plumbed into my rear brakes and honestly I haven't done any fine tuning yet.  But, so far the brakes seem very good.  Sorry, that's not much of a useable answer, but in short enough time I'll be tuning it up for max stopping power without dragging the pads.

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« Reply #1499 on: December 20, 2007, 12:35:38 AM »

Edit: Sam replied while I was replying... I guess he types faster than me... Grin



Brad,

Maybe Aaron (WannaGoBackToMoabAndShowOffMyJunk) will chime in, but here's the MC that he used on his Ram... Aarons master cylindr choice

I think it will work on our RC's, but I haven't confirmed it for sure.

I bought the TSM Dana 60 kit. I've since replumbed all of the brake lines, installed an adjustable proportioning valve, and swapped out the MC with another MC (same) that was less than a year old. I also adjusted the push rod that actuates the MC. I've bench bled the MC... and gravity bled the hell out of the calipers... without any luck. I've been told that I should have sufficient brakes without doing all of the stuff I'm doing, but I haven't had any luck. I was also concerned that I didn't have the e-brake adjusted properly. I didn't even have it hooked up at first. The piston is too far recessed and uses too much fluid for the brakes to engage. I wanted to upgrade the MC anyhow, so I won't be too upset as long as the next purchase solves the problem. I can accept all of the time/labor I've invested so far, but I'm charging the sawzall if this doesn't work! Grin
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