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Offline Bozo

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Club cab conversion
« on: March 8, 2008, 07:00:59 PM »
Hello everyone! I am a newbie to your forum. I own a '73 W200 long wide. I also have a '74 club cab long wide. My question is what are the dimensions a club cab short box ? Does it differ from a short box regular cab truck? I've been surfing for answers, none. I would like to know if I swap my regular cab on my long wide bed, to a club cab, what am I looking at in terms of bed lengths? Has anyone attempted this before? Any help would be appreciated, thanx.

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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 08:16:41 AM »
    howdy and welcome / the frames have an extra cross member for the club cab
    heres all the standard wheel bases

    W100-200 6ft bed = 115"
    W100-200 8ft bed = 131"
    w100 club 6ft bed = 133"
    W200 club 8ft bed = 149"

    its only two [2] inches difference which should not be a big deal to use the CLUB and a 6 ft bed on a truck that had a Reg cab and 8 ft bed  other than the rear CAB cross member / you would also hafta move the front BED mounts to fit
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 01:41:56 PM »
    Beds were the same, no matter what they were behind.

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    W100-200 8ft bed = 131"
    w100 club 6ft bed = 133"

    While the wheel base is close, the conv cab long bed frame will have a longer section behind the rear wheels. 42.25", compared to 38.25 inches on the clubcab short bed. You will also find the hump on the frame for the rear wheels, will not allow the short box to be a bolt on deal. You will likely have to cut, and reposition the box feet that rest against the hump section, along with all the box mounts.

    Would love to see pics, this summer I plan to stretch my frame, and add the rear of the clubcab to my 85W250
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 01:58:34 PM »
    Sorry for the bad forum manners (reviving a necro thread), especially coming from a forum newbie here, but this thread covers the exact question I had. I'm picking up a '75 W300 (reg cab/flat long bed) this Friday if all goes well. However, it's pretty rusty in the usual places, so I was looking into swapping on a better cab and bed. Even with the rust issues, it's worth the extra work to me to go ahead and fix it up since it has a 440/4spd and DRW.

    From reading through the replies in this thread, it sounds like it'll be possible to swap it over to a club cab and short box with a little work. Can anyone give me some details about the extra crossmember used with the Club Cab, as well as the bed mounts that need changed as well?

    In order to replace the flat bed with a short utiline box I'm pretty sure I'll need to extend the bed wheel fenders to cover the dual rear wheels. Does anyone here know if there ever was a factory set of utiline bed fenders made for a DRW axle?

    I usually try to find answers like these in service manuals first, but the service manual I have only covers the earlier trucks (61-71), not the 72-79 models. In the interim I'm trying to find the answers by doing a little research online for now instead. I'm going to wait to buy a service manual for this new (to me) truck until after I have it in my possession, just in case the deal falls through.

    I haven't had any luck finding the answers I've been looking for on DodgeTalk, and can't even post over there yet since they still haven't approved my forum registration from a couple of days ago. I did at least find a reply to a post in their vintage truck section that said to try this website (RCC) as it's more active.

    And since I didn't find a newbie intro thread section here, I'll put a little bit about me here in my first thread. I'm not new to Mopars or forums, just new to this era of Mopar truck and RCC. I was a Navy machinist (MR1) when I retired at 20 years back in '09. I've always been working on projects involving some kind of engine for most of my life. Lately I've been keeping busy up here in MT building a boat and a street legal sand rail along with various firearms of all types (I'm also a gunsmith). One more project won't kill me at this point. I think...
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 01:20:46 AM »
    From studying my crewcab, clubcab, ramcharger, and std cab... it looks like the club cab fits the std cab frame easily, by only moving a crossmember back about 18". After that, its just cutting the box down about the same amount. Does it really matter if the shortbed ends up 'factory' length?
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 07:08:59 AM »
    Thanks for confirming that the CC will fit the SC frame u2slow. In the second post in this thread it sounded like I would have to add another cross member to support the rear of the CC vs just moving one of the existing cab crossmembers back a bit. If it's just moving one back, then that'll be one less part I'll have to either find or fabricate.

    The original long box is long gone on this truck and a previous owner replaced it with a flat bed. I can cut the flat bed down to clear the CC without too much trouble. My goal is to eventually swap the flat bed out for a short utiline box once the CC is bolted in place. After looking over a few other build threads online, the bed mounts don't look like they'll be hard to move if needed.

    The rear wheel fenders will likely be the hardest part of the bed swap. I haven't been able to find any evidence that Dodge made DRW fenders for the utiline bed. Looks like I'll have to tub the fenders, and possibly the inside bed walls in order to make it work.

    First order of business is to get the truck and bring it home though. Then I can go through the basic used vehicle maintenance items and replace the tires. Once that's all done, it'll be time to go shopping for a cab and bed. I'm on a tight budget, so this is probably going to be a long project. I'll start a build thread when I get ready to start swapping the cab and bed over, but I want to have the truck running reliably before then.

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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 09:07:29 AM »
    What I did was move the rear cab mounts back 18" and remount.  Then I cut 18" out of the long bed (in front of the wheel wells) and welded back. After I got the bed put back, my only mistake was the body lines.  The back of the cab is 1/2" lower than the bed. So I made washers to raise the cab. I seemed to recall someone saying that club cab rear mounts mounted higher. It still worked out well. Glad I did it.
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 09:16:46 AM »
    Next plan of action is to modify Dodge Ram Boxes in the finished bed.
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #8 on: April 13, 2017, 11:03:05 AM »
    That's definitely one way to work with what you got. ;)

    I won't be getting a regular factory bed with this truck, just a flat deck type thing, so that's why I'll be looking for a short box utiline bed to put on it. The LWB frame should allow me enough room for the Club Cab and the short bed together on it. If all I can find for it in decent shape is a long utiline bed, I'll most likely still get it and then do the same thing as you did to your bed. But a short utiline bed would be a lot simpler to start out with.

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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #9 on: April 15, 2017, 05:20:40 PM »
    Well, it looks like it's time for me to start my own build thread. I picked up the '75 W300 yesterday and drove it home. And before anyone asks, that's NOT dust on the camera lens.  ;D

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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #10 on: April 16, 2017, 07:55:24 AM »
    Here's some photos I took of a truck I spotted behind a body shop. It looks like it may have started out as a standard cab short box. Someone has done some real engineering.
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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #11 on: April 16, 2017, 09:05:16 AM »
    That looks like it's on a Ramcharger frame.

    Also, there was never a dually Utiline bed.  Some have force the two together before, but to me it always looks like hell since it doesn't really fit with the dually axle width.

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    Re: Club cab conversion
    « Reply #12 on: April 16, 2017, 01:23:25 PM »
    Come to think of it... the clubcab's rear mount brackets hang on the outboard sides of the frame.

    The nicest stepside/utiline bed I've seen done for a dually had been split and widened. It was about 5' inside instead of 4', and inner fenders had been added.
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