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« on: January 22, 2012, 11:40:57 AM »
    I have a nice big long workbench in my new shop. It is made of two layers of 3/4" plywood. Im thinking of using It to rebuild my 518, but I don't want it to absorb ATF if I can help it. Will ATF dissolve polyurethane clear coat? I'm talking about the stuff you can buy as an all in one stain/sealer. I know it's pretty tuff stuff but im not sure about ATF.  ???
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 12:03:23 PM »
If you put the poly on heavy enough and wait a week for drying after you poly it and you should be good as long as you don't let the fluid sit for a long time.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 12:55:34 PM »
ATF is mostly mineral oil, it won't hurt the poly.  I guess I'd be more worried about something breaking down the glue in the plywood.

But, the poly will be pretty beat up and ugly by the time you're done with the transmission.  And, making it look good again could be a major PITA.  Poly is a surface treatment that is prone to cracking and peeling under abuse.

What I do with my workbenches (generally 2X2's glued together) is soak them heavily with boiled linseed oil.  Wipe on a new coat every hour or so for a day, then wipe down any excess and buff it dry (you can mix in a stain if you want).  Let it sit for a few days and its good to go.  It soaks deep into the wood, then hardens there.  Then, when in use, other liquids don't get readily absorbed and don't leave much, if any, of a stain or stench.  If a stain does happen and bothers me, some light sanding gets rid of it, and a quick wipe down with more boiled linseed oil blends it in.
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 02:32:29 PM »
I'm not the kind of guy that really cares about stains on a workbench. It's just that this week I might be rebuilding a trans then next week I might be fixing one of my wifes birdhouses. I only have so much Bench space. I just don't want one project contaminating the next.
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 03:01:12 PM »
Yeah, me neither, not much.  I have one workbench made from butcher block left over from another job.  I kept up with keeping it clean for a few months before I came to my senses.  Now I just lightly sand it and oil over the stains once a year or so.

What bugs me about transmission fluid is not the staining, but the smell - can't stand it.  When it soaks into something that smell sticks around.

Anyway, I think you'll find most woodworkers recommend some kind of penetrating oil sealant like boiled linseed oil on a workbench as opposed to a surface treatment like poly.  But, poly does have its place.
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 03:12:43 PM »
Get a piece of CDX plywood cut to the correct size and set it aside when done for the next greasy oily project.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 03:36:43 PM »
Get a piece of CDX plywood cut to the correct size and set it aside when done for the next greasy oily project.

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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 05:46:46 PM »
Get a piece of CDX plywood cut to the correct size and set it aside when done for the next greasy oily project.

   This does seem like the best approach.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 07:13:13 PM »
I have rebuilt 2 now and both times i spent the whole time wishing i would have made a table for the job. It seems like only half the fluid comes out with the pan/convertor. I had fluid draining out every time i took out some more guts or repositioned the case. A piece of sheetmetal with a drain in the center on a table. With a little squeegie to push the garbage towards the drain.

Another pipe dream. Reality is, i will probably do the next one just like the last one. Sawhorses, sheet of plywood and a dollar store plastic tablecloth cut in half. One for disasembly and replaced with the other half for re-asembly.
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 08:56:04 PM »
I have all the materials needed to build such a table.... Except for the most expensive part, the plate. The problem is I don't see myself building one any thinner than 3/8" plate. The table would serve as a welding table when the tranny is complete. I'd love to build one but it's out of the budget.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 10:24:43 PM »

I imagine a table big enough to do any real work on  made out of heavy plate is gonna cost a few denari.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 10:42:28 PM »
Yep, a 4x8 sheet of 3/8" is around $325. I'd be happy with a 3x4 foot table, but most metal suppliers won't sell less than a full sheet. I just need to stumble across a piece laying around a local fab shop.
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 11:18:01 PM »
Lay some cardboard down, it is ideal to build a tranny on, it will absorb a lot of fluid too.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 11:18:52 PM »
I have all the materials needed to build such a table.... Except for the most expensive part, the plate. The problem is I don't see myself building one any thinner than 3/8" plate. The table would serve as a welding table when the tranny is complete. I'd love to build one but it's out of the budget.

3/4" plywood with a piece of 4'x8' 20ga metal and a hole in the center with a drain tube.

If you cut the plywood down say 3 inches shorter on two sides you can "wrap" the metal over the edge, bend a lip first then wrap it.

You could even cut the plywood into a 4-piece pie, taper it to the middle and use 2x's to under for a frame then put the metal over that.

All kinds of things you can do.......  ;D

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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 09:24:06 AM »
Yeah, I thought about using thin sheet metal over plywood. I still might, but I won't go as far as building one with a sump. I don't plan on building trannys regularly. Then again, it could be a good side job if I get good at it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 01:23:45 PM »
Yeah, I thought about using thin sheet metal over plywood. I still might, but I won't go as far as building one with a sump. I don't plan on building trannys regularly. Then again, it could be a good side job if I get good at it.

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 03:04:03 PM »
I'm sure there are plenty of plans for such a table on the internet. 

Just google "tranny table" and check out the first several links...

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 03:12:06 PM »
A friend of mine uses an old surgical table. Its SS and has a drain hole at one end. It works great. Also If there are any restaurants going out of business or having an auction you can get a nice SS table out of it.
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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 03:18:17 PM »
I'm pretty much sure that no matter what I build, no matter how careful I am, it will have a "natural" down slope drain build in. :P

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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 03:33:34 PM »
I'm pretty much sure that no matter what I build, no matter how careful I am, it will have a "natural" down slope drain build in. 

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 04:43:06 PM »
I'm pretty much sure that no matter what I build, no matter how careful I am, it will have a "natural" down slope drain build in. :P

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Re: Tranny table
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2012, 05:00:00 PM »
Yeah, I thought about using thin sheet metal over plywood. I still might, but I won't go as far as building one with a sump. I don't plan on building trannys regularly. Then again, it could be a good side job if I get good at it.

Odds are you will be good at it. Get a book.Follow the directions carefully, and you will have success. It is not the rocket science i once thought it was. Just keep everything squeaky clean.  I am 2 for 2 and now i am always on the lookout for cheap cores.
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2012, 01:09:44 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2012, 01:19:13 AM »
I would say go to napa or a truck parts store and get a fleet drip pan. They are big very shallow drip pans for use under semis and other heavy equipment vehicles. You could find one that fits your work surface and use it for the tranny. Then when done wipe it down and throw it under the truck or stack it against the wall!
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