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Military Tires
« on: October 30, 2011, 08:33:33 PM »
Anybody know of a place to get military surplus tires in VA, TN, KY or NC.  Im in southwest VA so the closer to there would be the best.  Thanks
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 09:31:35 PM »
    Anybody know of a place to get military surplus tires in VA, TN, KY or NC.  Im in southwest VA so the closer to there would be the best.  Thanks

    The best place I know of is Berg Tire in Fayetteville, NC....they have a website and if you call speak with Allen....only thing is it is in Fayetteville, which is close to I-95 and Ft. Bragg....but the prices and customer service are worth it in my opinion....Paul
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 09:42:35 PM »
    Thanks I dont care to drive awhile.  Have you used any of the military tires personally? If you have what did you think of them?  The ramcharger wont be a daily driver just around town some and a toy in the woods.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 10:02:50 PM »
    If you are speaking of the 37" HMMWV Goodyear Wrangler Military OZ tires, I like mine.  Not the best mud tire available, but a great tire for the price I paid.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 10:05:35 PM »
    Those or the 38 Michelin XML, do you run them on Dodge 16.5 wheels or do you have H1s?
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 10:59:48 PM »
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #6 on: October 31, 2011, 05:16:28 AM »
    Those or the 38 Michelin XML, do you run them on Dodge 16.5 wheels or do you have H1s?

    Mine, 37" x 12.50" x 16.5" Goodyears, are on stock Hmmv 12 bolt split rims....16.5" x 8.25", w/ 7" backspace....

    BTW, if you don't want to drive for the tires, then call around and see how much to ship them to you....
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #7 on: October 31, 2011, 09:58:49 AM »
    I run mine on typical 16.5x9.75 wagon wheels, 8 lug naturally:



    I ordered mine from TrailworthyFab.com and for 5 tires and shipping it was a tad over $500, which is still a great deal for these tires considering what they cost new and how much life is left in them.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 12:59:33 PM »
    I run the 36-12.5R16.5s on my offroad rig and love them. They are awsome in the mud and ive grooved the hell out of them for better grip on the trails.   Watch
     http://www.govliquidation.com/   Thats where I bought 2 lots of the Humvee tires. Ive run the 36's on my F350 CC 4x4 and towed my 16' trailer with my krawler on it and had no issues with the tires.   For cheep tires you cant beat em.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 01:39:44 PM »
    Thanks guys.  El do you know how much of a discount they give to Pirate4x4 members?  I read over there all the time but dont post but Ill sign up for a discount  ;D
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 06:20:08 PM »
    this guy is in my neck of the woods, haven't dealt with him personally but I have heard good things bout him, also he is a only about an hour and 20 min away or so
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #11 on: November 1, 2011, 12:27:13 AM »
    Thanks guys.  El do you know how much of a discount they give to Pirate4x4 members?  I read over there all the time but dont post but Ill sign up for a discount  ;D

    To my knowledge they do not give a discount to anyone but their prices and quality are top notch and they have some of the best customer service I have experienced.  When and if I get the cash for new rims, they will get the nod for a total of 8 recentered HMMWV 12 bolts.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #12 on: November 1, 2011, 07:53:50 AM »
    Keep an eye out on gsaauctions.gov too. I saw 7 of them on there a while ago for like 400 bucks. They were new government surplus... never used.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #13 on: November 1, 2011, 03:04:15 PM »
    Oh I saw on the bottom of their website it said the same great prices offered at Pirate so I thought they gave some kind of discount.  Im probably going to order a set of tires and the recentered rims with the rock rings and pvc inserts.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #14 on: November 3, 2011, 11:49:28 AM »
    Having driven Humvees with both on them, I would say they are both pretty good offroad, but the 36" bias ply tires (older humvee tires) will beat the livin piss out of you going down the road...

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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #15 on: November 6, 2011, 07:34:24 PM »
    Thanks guys...got really lucky Eric posted his set of 5 for sale and is only a couple hours drive from me.  Ended up working out pretty good ;D
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #16 on: November 6, 2011, 07:55:05 PM »
    Having driven Humvees with both on them, I would say they are both pretty good offroad, but the 36" bias ply tires (older humvee tires) will beat the livin piss out of you going down the road...

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    Awesome traction though, the Dakota is running XTC Winter Treads, which are a form of the old Power King tires, and the PW50 runs a set of 40x17-15 Monster Mudders. No matter what i throw at the PW50 it just keeps moving. But when you've got almost 2 foot of tire grabbing the ground at each corner, there isn't much that could stop it  ;D

    Used the beast to move a massive stump grinder the other day (the kind that is usually towed behind a tri-axle bucket truck  :o ) The tongue weight alone was enough to compress the rear suspension 10"  :o No spinning, it just tugged it along with no problem.  Not on the street obviously, off-road. I'm not insane enough to pull something like that on the street with a lifted half-ton mini pickup  :P

    Then after i moved the stump grinder, I rolled the PW50 into the garage, yanked out the little 4-Cylinder and started to drop in a 273 Chrysler Small Block for even more power  ;D

    The Dakota on the other hand, the tires are 30x10-15's and they will spin if you don't have some weight in the bed. Towed a 70's 1-Ton Chevy Truck with it this morning, miles of winding roads with a Extended Cab Dakota with a Receiver Hitch & Tow-Dolly. It would chirp the tires pulling out from a stop. It did great, didn't sway, didn't push me around. I wouldn't want to tow much more than another truck with it, but for stuff like that it makes a great tow vehicle.

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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #17 on: November 7, 2011, 08:40:09 AM »
    I'd get on Steel Soldiers Supersite forum and look around in the classifieds. There's a couple down here, Bergs and White Owl, I think White Owl the closest to up your way. Thats why I say SSS might be the place to look, those guys are all over the place in home locations, one might be near you with a stash. BUT I'v read/heard that those old Hummer tires are less than desireable, their ply rating is something like 8 ply I 'think' not sure, and on top of that they'v been traveling around in contaminated 'Depleted uranium' soil over there. While that might not be a big problem, meh....  But anyway, others on forums seem to not really care for them. Maybe for a Hummer their great though. They are cheap though. Thing is, I believe there half sizes, as in 16.5 or 19.5 or something, but I'm not possative on that for sure either. Try Steel Soldiers being in VA. you might get lucky.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #18 on: November 7, 2011, 09:15:50 AM »
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #19 on: November 7, 2011, 09:35:53 AM »
    100Dollarman is from SteelSoldiers but is in California.  He is reputed to be good to deal with though.  For the 37" radials, I'd only go with TrailWorthyFab.  Military surplus dealers usually charge a premium for the tires since they usually deal with a different clientele.

    As for HMMWV tires, almost all of the surplus tires are from stateside due to the fact that every HMMWV that gets deployed gets new rubber before getting shipped out.  I seriously doubt depleted uranium exists in these tires.  Also, all HMMWV tires are for a 16.5 rim.  There are other military surplus tires available for various rim sizes but the HMMWV tires are just about the only ones well suited for a light truck.  As for their performance, like I've stated before, they are the best tire you can buy for under $100 in both tread life and traction.  A lot fo the confusion with the HMMWV tires comes from the earlier 36" bias ply version, which did indeed suck under all conditions and had tread separation and sidewall issues.  The tires currently available will be the 37" radial Wrangler OZs and are great tires provided they are not very old or previously damaged.  This is why I would go with TrailWorthy since they have a great reputation and back up what they sell.  They buy them in truckload lots, sort them, sell only the quality tires, then pass the "seconds" on to other dealers who then usually try to sell them for more that TrailWorthy.  Either do the homework and shop carefully or go with a sure thing, in my opinion.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #20 on: November 7, 2011, 10:07:11 AM »
    ^^^^^He said. There's some places I believe in TN. or KY. too I think, SSS member kind'a things or Surplus places for Military vehicles as well as a few up Pen. way. Your kind of between everything, so it's sort of inconvienient.
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    Re: Military Tires
    « Reply #21 on: November 7, 2011, 09:46:38 PM »
    Thanks guys, Im going to buy the set that Eric posted in the classifieds here though, theyre MTRs not the OZs but on the same beadlocks
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