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Topic: Man who shoots cops fears Obama was going to take away his rights  (Read 2279 times)
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« Reply #50 on: April 5, 2009, 03:43:15 PM »

What was happening in 1980 to drive people to murder?

Well. I was born in '84. That might have been a contributory factor.
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« Reply #51 on: April 5, 2009, 03:44:08 PM »

Murder for personal profit or any sort is as old as Cain and Abel.  I'm talking about wanting to kill yourself but taking many innocent others with you.  It's not like it hasn't happened before, but the rate of larger-scale sensational incidents is increasing in frequency.

The ability of instantaneous information distribution to the masses is why it appears to be increasing....24hr news, internet, cell phones, etc....like PG said it has remained fairly consistent, only the "here it is in your face has increased dramatically"....

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« Reply #52 on: April 5, 2009, 03:57:31 PM »

Well. I was born in '84. That might have been a contributory factor.

There you have it folks!....the missing link to all of the unsolved murders in 1984 has been identified....and all the cold cases have been re-opened, an arrest is forth coming....

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« Reply #53 on: April 5, 2009, 04:06:00 PM »

I do not need to ask other LEO or prior LEO. I ran EMS for 8 years at various levels and we always hated the "domestic" calls for the very reason you stated. They were always the ones with the most potential to turn really ugly really fast.

Did I ever mention I was on the debate team in school and just like arguing? lol

Wasn't the parking permit. It is the horrible nightmares I have about the large red hair.

I agree. It could have been one of those "cry wolf" situations. You hear and respond to the same place so many times and it is always nothing, and then the one time you let your guard down it is not the normal "nothing happening' situation and we end up with 3 officers down.

Refer back to my debate team comment. With enough thought on the subject I am sure I could come up with an argument that would sway a lot of people. But for this thread/topics sake I was just arguing to be arguing. More or less keeping it alive until some of the people I wanted to see post actually did.

I also agree with this being a potential good thing to come of this.

I agree with Danny on this. These things happening is nothing new. They just get more airplay.

eric

So it appears you have moved out of the nursing field....and have taken up trapping for a living.... Grin....I must apologize for leaving out EMS/Rescue on these calls (I had forgotten you had mentioned awhile back about your EMS cert)....in our area, LE always seemed to arrive on scene before hand....with us calling you guys in if needed once it was secure....

I was never on the Debate team in school....but I did argue with my three sisters alot.... Shocked Roll Eyes

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« Reply #54 on: April 5, 2009, 05:18:38 PM »

So it appears you have moved out of the nursing field....and have taken up trapping for a living.... Grin....



Actually, not out of the nursing field, just out of work at the moment. Needed something to do in my spare time. lol

Did give a +1 to most people in this topic that actually had civil and decent thought out responses.

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« Reply #55 on: April 5, 2009, 05:33:45 PM »

Did give a +1 to most people in this topic that actually had civil and decent thought out responses.

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How much are you charging for those of us that didn't Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: April 5, 2009, 05:50:27 PM »

How much are you charging for those of us that didn't Smiley

Don't cut yourself short and say you didn't. you are one of the ones that got a +1 Agree
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« Reply #57 on: April 5, 2009, 05:59:59 PM »

If anything they need to train the police to shoot better so they can start making head shots.
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« Reply #58 on: April 5, 2009, 09:30:08 PM »

Okay...apparently the shooter may not be the only screwed up member of the family...does anybody else find his mother's actions a little "odd"?  Something here doesn't add up.... Think

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090406/ap_on_re_us/pittsburgh_shooting
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« Reply #59 on: April 5, 2009, 11:18:36 PM »

seems like such a waste.If you fear that the government will take away your guns and you are going to die anyway then why not attempt to take out those that would make laws to ban your guns.But kill them in a orginal way like with with a spoon or some ironic.Any nut job can kill somebody with a gun, it takes real heart and talent to kill someone with a spoon, or a pizza box, or a dildo...  Cheesy
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« Reply #60 on: April 6, 2009, 10:22:13 AM »

it takes real heart and talent to kill someone with a spoon, or a pizza box, or a dildo...  Cheesy

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« Reply #61 on: April 6, 2009, 10:58:15 AM »

Better be effective.  Nobody wants to go to jail for attempted murder with a dildo..,....
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« Reply #62 on: April 6, 2009, 11:06:36 AM »

Wow, I am impressed.  My quick skim over the post netted 0 "it's Obama's fault" posts. 

For the one who mentioned what president have you seen bow down to a Middle Eastern King, there is nothing wrong with showing respect.  NOBODY is in such a position that they are disrespecting their own self by respecting another.
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For the one who mentioned what president have you seen bow down to a Middle Eastern King, there is nothing wrong with showing respect.  NOBODY is in such a position that they are disrespecting their own self by respecting another.

Probably someone with the same mindset as the individual who decided to label Obama as "just another colored guy living in government housing looking for change".
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« Reply #64 on: April 6, 2009, 04:14:10 PM »

Wow, I am impressed.  My quick skim over the post netted 0 "it's Obama's fault" posts. 

For the one who mentioned what president have you seen bow down to a Middle Eastern King, there is nothing wrong with showing respect.  NOBODY is in such a position that they are disrespecting their own self by respecting another.

That would be me....and you are correct in showing respect to another....yet here we had our President, one that would be considered equal to any other country's leader bowing to the Saudi Arabian King....consider the following:

Bowing originated as a gesture of subordination, as lowering the head leaves the bower vulnerable.

Bowing to other human beings is frowned upon in Muslim cultures as all human beings are considered equal and bowing is only supposed to be done to God in Islam.

There are several styles of greetings used; it is best to wait for your counterpart to initiate the greeting. Men shake hands with other men. Some men will shake hands with a woman; it is advisable for a businesswoman to wait for a man to offer his hand. A more traditional greeting between men involves grasping each other’s right hand, placing the left hand on the other’s right shoulder and exchanging kisses on each cheek.

Just a few things that apply to Saudi Arabia....based on all things considered surrounding Pres. Obama, answered or un-answered, "the bowing to the king" just doesn't sit right for what its worth....

So Sam, that's my take on it....

Paul

Probably someone with the same mindset as the individual who decided to label Obama as "just another colored guy living in government housing looking for change".

I was going to let your ignorance and punk-ass smart remarks slide once again, only due to being advised to do so....but since you have no other purpose in life than what you post on this site, I will take that into consideration....I'll get back with you later....



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« Reply #65 on: April 6, 2009, 04:25:07 PM »

And in some cultures bowing is a sign of respect, regardless what class, importance or hierarchy.  Others it is simply a greeting.  You could argue nodding the head is the same as bowing.  The point is he did it out of respect, not to disrespect, not because he was scared, not because he thought the other guy was better then him.
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« Reply #66 on: April 6, 2009, 04:33:42 PM »

I know we are famous for hijacking and misdirecting threads. However, with the new turn this topic has taken I can see potential for some very heated arguments/discussions. Could we please move the "to bow or not to bow" discussion to its own topic? This would allow the original topic of discussion to carry on in this thread.

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« Reply #67 on: April 6, 2009, 04:45:31 PM »

I know we are famous for hijacking and misdirecting threads. However, with the new turn this topic has taken I can see potential for some very heated arguments/discussions. Could we please move the "to bow or not to bow" discussion to its own topic? This would allow the original topic of discussion to carry on in this thread.

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I understand what you are saying....and how you are saying it.... Roll Eyes....I was merely replying to Sam's remarks....trying to clarify why I thought what I thought....no hi-jack intended....I will not comment on the other at this time....back to our regularly scheduled shootings.... Shocked

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I understand what you are saying....and how you are saying it.... Roll Eyes....I was merely replying to Sam's remarks....trying to clarify why I thought what I thought....no hi-jack intended....I will not comment on the other at this time....back to our regularly scheduled shootings.... Shocked

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its all good Paul. Everybody was still civil and within the basics of this topic. I just wanted to curb any uncivil and off topic stuff now before it got out of hand, since i have actually enjoyed the discussions in this thread and dont want to see it locked.

appreciate your understanding

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