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Desert Tan Paint Job
« on: December 28, 2013, 12:13:43 AM »
Where do yall buy your paint?
Im trying to find a oil based Desert Tan flat to semi flat paint. Some thing that requires no mixing or adding. I would prefer a industrial paint. This will be for a trail truck, So I need a tuff paint that requires little work to shoot. Not building a show truck. Im also looking to find it in gallon form not aerosol cans.

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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 07:41:58 AM »
 Give these guys a try, they sell qood quality mil spec stuff.

https://www.armyjeepparts.net/p-2289-30277-lusterless-desert-sandust-1-gallon.aspx



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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2013, 09:22:56 AM »
Gillespie Coatings (GCI) is the #1 choice of military vehicle restorers.  Regular paints just don't seem to hold up once flattened and spray bomb and canned Rustoleum camouflage paints are only good for a year or two before they turn chalky.  Rapco is usually a little cheaper on GCI paint but beware, there is a heavy HAZMAT charge to shipping this type of paint, regardless of where you buy it.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2013, 10:01:46 AM »
Thanks Guys, Thats exactly what Im looking for also thanks for the heads up on the HAZMAT Shipping.

I think a Gallon should be enough to paint a 78 Ramcharger.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2013, 10:06:29 AM »
...ooooohhhh i dunno about a gallon.  It took about a 1/4-gallon of the GCI just to paint my hood.  If yer gonna buy paint and pay the hazmat charge I'd recommend getting like 3-4 gallons and then you'll have plenty for the whole truck, and for future touch-up {2cents}

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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2013, 10:15:31 AM »
...ooooohhhh i dunno about a gallon.  It took about a 1/4-gallon of the GCI just to paint my hood.  If yer gonna buy paint and pay the hazmat charge I'd recommend getting like 3-4 gallons and then you'll have plenty for the whole truck, and for future touch-up {2cents}

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The shipping actually gets cheaper the more you buy also. Your right I forgot how much paint I used to paint my M880 back in the day. 3-4 gals will probably be better
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2013, 10:49:59 AM »
we got a gallon of similarly colored paint for my buddy's f/s bronco and ended up with a ton leftover.  all depends how thick ya go, maybe.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2013, 10:59:01 AM »
This took 3 1/2 gallons to do just the outside when I painted it
 another 1 1/2 to do what I painted inside
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2013, 11:03:58 AM »
have you looked @ tractor supply?  I have used their paint on anything from dump trucks to the old crew cab to a ramcharger... cheap & easy..
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2013, 11:11:27 AM »
have you looked @ tractor supply?  I have used their paint on anything from dump trucks to the old crew cab to a ramcharger... cheap & easy..

Yeah Ive used it before. We painted Noahs PW with TSC black Paint. Im just looking for a specific color. TSC doesn't have it
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2013, 11:18:53 AM »
the first thing i drove was a 58 plymouth station wagon.it was desert tan and white.when the tan faded,it turned pink.every one called it the pink elefant.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2013, 11:43:56 AM »
Yall weren't kidding about the HAZMAT cost $300 for 4 gallons. I think im going to keep looking around for a cheaper alternative. if I don't find anything then I will bite the bullet and use them
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2013, 11:49:57 AM »
This took 3 1/2 gallons to do just the outside when I painted it
 another 1 1/2 to do what I painted inside

I love those hard tops for the hummers. They don't leak. ;D And the storage compartments are nice.

the HAZMAT cost $300 for 4 gallons.

 :o Dang! And I thought hazmat shipping on primers and powder was bad.....
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2013, 11:53:56 AM »
What the heck is in that stuff to make it so pricey to ship?
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2013, 01:09:08 PM »
Any Napa or body shop supply place can mix you paint to the fed code: 30277  This would allow you to circumvent the shipping costs. I have done this before with many other fed spec colors.

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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2013, 01:14:55 PM »
Yeah, any automotive paint shop can mix it but about the best you can do is get a semi-gloss or satin finish.  I don't know what the difference in the paint formulations are but I have yet to hear of anyone using automotive paint and being 100% happy with how flat it is on a military vehicle.  I used to mix Sherwin Williams automotive paint and tried several times to get 23070 mixed right for an M38 but whatever they used to flatten it changed to color too much.  They eventually went with Aervoe military resto paint but it faded to a chalky grey-green color in a couple years.
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2013, 02:11:37 PM »
...that was $300 'total' right (paint, fee, shipping) - not just for the Hazmat fee?...I hope!  :P
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2013, 02:23:45 PM »
...that was $300 'total' right (paint, fee, shipping) - not just for the Hazmat fee?...I hope!  :P

Yes, $300 Total. Sorry I wasn;t clear. Still a chunk of change for paint and no primer
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2013, 02:56:12 PM »
That reminds me, use red oxide color primer for military paints.  It ensures the color comes out correctly.  Grey or other colors tend to skew the color a bit.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2013, 06:25:49 PM »
The stuff you can buy isn't actual CARC is it? I wonder if that has something to do with the final finish.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2013, 07:46:23 PM »
Yes, $300 Total. Sorry I wasn;t clear. Still a chunk of change for paint and no primer

well it is pretty good paint, and it's oil based so it'll fill in nooks and crannies nicely - that's one of the reasons I like alkyd (oil-based) enamels.  And it's real durable once it's fully cured.
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2013, 07:52:54 PM »
The stuff you can buy isn't actual CARC is it? I wonder if that has something to do with the final finish.

No, not actual CARC, though some colors do come in a "CARC substitute" formula.  I think only the "383 Tan" would be a CARC substitute in the desert colors.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2013, 08:53:55 PM »
No, not actual CARC, though some colors do come in a "CARC substitute" formula.  I think only the "383 Tan" would be a CARC substitute in the desert colors.

Right on. Thanks. (all this talk is making me want a crew cab and build a "war wagon".)
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2013, 06:49:44 PM »
Yes, $300 Total. Sorry I wasn;t clear. Still a chunk of change for paint and no primer

$300 for 4 gallons of paint is not too bad if you consider that one gallon of Glasurit inca red is very close to a Grand. Good paint isn't cheap.

Which makes that $300 seem even more of a value because it really isn't to shabby a price for a paint with such high solids content. 

I agree that many colors are "hard" to match. Fed Spec 595 is a mess and it's a long process to understand all the little differences that have evolved over 50+ years of "Mil spec" paint codes. That said, desert tan type colors are a fairly recent edition. Any paint shop with Revision B (FED-STD-595B) should be able to mix it. Our local Guard unit uses Napa for their paint...as an example.

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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2013, 06:59:37 PM »
Another option might be to go get it yourself.  Rapco is in Bowie, TX.
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2013, 07:50:31 PM »
Another option might be to go get it yourself.  Rapco is in Bowie, TX.

5 hours away one way. But damn these guys will ship four gallons to my door for $165!

Case of 4 - 1 Gallon Cans are $125.00 + $30.00 HazMat + $10.00 Extra Shipping
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2013, 08:03:18 PM »
5 hours away one way. But damn these guys will ship four gallons to my door for $165!

Case of 4 - 1 Gallon Cans are $125.00 + $30.00 HazMat + $10.00 Extra Shipping
$165.00

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Subtotal:  $165.00
Shipping:  $25.99
Tax:  $15.76
Total:  $206.75

Still Cheaper then the other place. But I could still drive there and get it. So is 10 hours of my time worth saving $166.00? But end up spending a $100.00 in fuel to get it.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2013, 09:07:43 PM »
It might be worth it if you had the time a a nice little gas mileage car.  Otherwise I think a day's worth of my time is probably worth $150.  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2013, 09:26:06 PM »
It might be worth it if you had the time a a nice little gas mileage car.  Otherwise I think a day's worth of my time is probably worth $150.  ;D

Agreed, I ordered what I needed. Thanks again for the help!
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2014, 02:05:39 PM »
I ended up ordering 33446 686  Tan(CARC)Substitute mainly because that was the color closet to what i was looking for. Took about a week and half to make it here. Might be able to do some painting next week if this weather warms up.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2014, 02:18:07 PM »
That will be the same color desert tan that is used on modern US military vehicles used in desert theaters today.
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2014, 05:04:03 PM »
That will be the same color desert tan that is used on modern US military vehicles used in desert theaters today.

Good, thats the look im going for. We will see how it turns out. Once I iget it painted up I will post a picture for refrence if anyone is interested.
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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2014, 08:55:52 PM »
I know this is a bit late, but I figured I would post for anyone else that comes across this thread. I know most will find it hard  to believe but the main paint that most people on steel soldiers are using is behr premium exterior house paint from home depot, they have the federal standards paint codes in their computer and it gives a finish extremely close to the original and is very durable after fully being cured. The only down side is it does take about three weeks to fully cure but it can be sprayed, brushed or rolled and looks great and can be thinned with water.

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« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2014, 09:01:05 PM »
House paint is a lot different than automotive paint.  A lot of the SteelSoldiers guys are into doing things on the cheap and for guys with a cheap surplus truck with faded and mismatched paint, anything is better than nothing but you can bet the guys who are actually restoring their trucks are using GCI or something of similar quality.
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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2014, 10:50:10 AM »
Well here is the End result. I think it came out great. Im very happy with  it.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2014, 11:34:03 AM »
Looks great.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2014, 01:44:58 PM »
Looks great.

X2... I like it. I am almost wondering if I shouldn't paint my M37 that color.

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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2014, 02:41:01 PM »
Looks awesome!  I usually don't like the desert tan that much, mainly since all the military vehicle here in the East are woodland or OD, but that looks really good.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2014, 11:47:54 AM »
Looks awesome!  I usually don't like the desert tan that much, mainly since all the military vehicle here in the East are woodland or OD, but that looks really good.

Thanks! I appreciate the help on finding the paint. I was very impressed with the quality of the paint and how it sprayed. Very high quality paint for sure. We still need to paint the top and a few touch up areas ( mirrors, door panels, Dash, etc etc. All said and done We will probably use about 3 gallons of paint. So that gives me one extra for touch ups after I hit the trail.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2014, 11:57:16 AM »
 Hey...nice job!

 Any accent colors....or just stick with one solid color. Bumpers, door handles etc.?
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2014, 12:54:37 PM »
Hey...nice job!

 Any accent colors....or just stick with one solid color. Bumpers, door handles etc.?

I want to keep it all Tan. But my buddies are trying to convince me to put some flat black on it
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2014, 01:34:02 PM »
The paint was an easy recommendation since every one who has used it that I know of has had nothing but good things to say about it aside from the shipping costs, lol.  It's really about the only choice if you want automotive quality paint that is premixed and available int he right colors.  You cna have the paint mixed by code but it seems by the time you get it flat enough to look right, the color has shifted a bit. 

As for the tan, if you are going with the military look, which with the M880 bumper I assume that's the look you want, I'd just leave everything tan.  Body, wheels, bumpers, grille, everything.  The only thing else you could add would be some unit numbers and similar ID markings which were done several different ways in contrasting colors depending on the branch and unit.  There are the military manuals for the markings available if you are interested in that.  Otherwise I would just leave it all unbroken tan.  Looks very utilitarian and looks like the truck means business.  {cool}
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2014, 08:48:42 PM »
House paint is a lot different than automotive paint.  A lot of the SteelSoldiers guys are into doing things on the cheap and for guys with a cheap surplus truck with faded and mismatched paint, anything is better than nothing but you can bet the guys who are actually restoring their trucks are using GCI or something of similar quality.

wow isnt that about a shit ass, looking down your nose response. Actually a lot of the people that are using the behr paint are doing it on full restores. If the paint holds up on the EXTERIOR of a house and handles all types of weather being thrown at it then there is no reason that it wouldnt be ok to use on a vehicle and the stupid comment about how they are just a bunch of people that do stuff "on the cheap" just shows your level of ignorance especially when you are a "moderator" on a forum that has the motto of "its not what you buy its what you build". This forum is all about doing things on the cheap and building stuff instead of just buying expensive factory built trucks.

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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2014, 09:02:52 PM »
wow isnt that about a shit ass, looking down your nose response. Actually a lot of the people that are using the behr paint are doing it on full restores. If the paint holds up on the EXTERIOR of a house and handles all types of weather being thrown at it then there is no reason that it wouldnt be ok to use on a vehicle and the stupid comment about how they are just a bunch of people that do stuff "on the cheap" just shows your level of ignorance especially when you are a "moderator" on a forum that has the motto of "its not what you buy its what you build". This forum is all about doing things on the cheap and building stuff instead of just buying expensive factory built trucks.

I think your miss understanding him. Even though Behr is a good quality paint, Its a good quality paint for your house. Not a automotive grade paint. I have used house paint to vehicles in the past. I did it on my M880. and even though I got the color right and it did last for a about or year or two. But that kinda paint is not made to prevent rust or take the riggers of weather on a vehicle. It didn't do to well when cleaning after being coverd in mud. I actually found that the latex based house paint unless you use a automotive clearcoat on top, can actually  stain from mud.
I realize that some work on budgets for painting their vehicle. I do too. But my opinion is to use a good quality automotive paint with in your budget to paint your vehicle. Because in the long run if will protect your vehicle  better. Also I wanted a very certain look for my vehicle and the GCI Military grade paint offered the exact look I was going for and offered the protecting and quality I was looking for.
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Re: Desert Tan Paint Job
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2014, 10:36:41 PM »
wow isnt that about a shit ass, looking down your nose response. Actually a lot of the people that are using the behr paint are doing it on full restores. If the paint holds up on the EXTERIOR of a house and handles all types of weather being thrown at it then there is no reason that it wouldnt be ok to use on a vehicle and the stupid comment about how they are just a bunch of people that do stuff "on the cheap" just shows your level of ignorance especially when you are a "moderator" on a forum that has the motto of "its not what you buy its what you build". This forum is all about doing things on the cheap and building stuff instead of just buying expensive factory built trucks.

Look pal, I don't know what got up your ass over this but you better chill out.  House paint is not automotive paint.  If it were, people wouldn't be paying $400 a gallon for red automotive paint, they would just pop in to Walmart and have some mixed up.  Standing up to some weather on the side of a house is nothing like what automotive paint has to deal with.  How often does your house get peppered with rocks?  How often does it deal salt?  Or engine heat?  Exhaust?  Hail?  What works great on the side of a house where all it has to deal with is the sun rain and maybe some ice is nothing compared to the environments a vehicle may see.  If just any old paint worked for everything, why would they even bother making different kinds of paint?  Maybe I should alert the military that they don't need CARC since you say house paint is just as good.

As for SteelSoldiers, you joined there last March, not quite a year ago.  I've been with the current forum since '04 and was on the forum that crashed before that, just shortly after Chris moved it from a Yahoo group for CUCV owners to a website for all military vehicle owners.  I met Chris many years ago when I hauled his Unimog he bought from another member.  So don't act like I'm putting anyone down over there, I know many of them quite well and know what the military vehicle hobby is all about.  There are those who want to preserve the history of military vehicles and restore them back to what they were and then there are those who just love the cheap, rugged trucks and while they want to show off that it's a military truck, they are not that interested in it having the correct engine, correct colors and camouflage patterns, things like the correct era tops, tires, etc.  Just as in the Dodge truck hobby, there are those who want an original truck and there are those who don't mind making it "better than stock", in their opinion.  And yes, I could care less what you say about my "ignorance", which is a laughable statement to make considering my knowledge of both Dodge trucks and military vehicles.  I'm not bragging but it's a well known fact that I know a bit more than the average guy on both these subjects.  And yes, there are many of us who do things on the cheap in both hobbies and I expect that to continue.  Nevermind you are ranting at me for saying that some of the SS guys are "cheap" and then act like you are putting me down for being a moderator on a site that promotes doing things "cheap".  Which is it, you like cheap or you don't? 

Either way RCC, to me, is not about doing things cheap.  Anyone who has a Dodge truck knows you can buy them cheap but owning and restoring them can be more expensive than other brands.  We do things right around here.  Yes, there are ways to save money but we all have differing ideas about what cheap is.  Some of us are happy to drive a truck filled with rust and mismatched parts.  Others of us shy away from anything that looks unoriginal or "booty fab".  This site is not about cheap versus expensive, to me it's about doing what you want with your truck and building your dream instead of paying someone else to do all the work.  Anyone can go sign their life away on a new Jeep Rubicon with all the lift, winch, tires and everything else that impresses the kids at the mall, but we build what we want here, regardless if what we want is cheap or expensive.

So with that in mind, when someone asks a question about military paint that is durable and goes on good, I am naturally going to tell them what I know about GCI paint.  You can suggest whatever you desire but if you try to say something as ridiculous as house paint being as good as automotive paint, you can bet someone is going to call you out on it.
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