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Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
« Reply #2800 on: March 12, 2017, 04:33:42 PM »
They do make a LOT of power & cost a LOT!!
If I think I was going to invest that kind of money I would look into a Walker Evans truck.
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2801 on: March 12, 2017, 04:39:23 PM »
    They do make a LOT of power & cost a LOT!!
    If I think I was going to invest that kind of money I would look into a Walker Evans truck.
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2802 on: March 19, 2017, 01:39:20 AM »
    Just fyi I've been doing research after recently getting a 2002 Dakota 4x4 V6 3.9(major gutless) and a hemi swap is surprisingly easy for 2001-2004 dakotas. They bolt up to the dakota transmissions and just require mounts, oil pan solution, and some wiring to adapt the hemi harness and ecu to the dakota chassis. Not that the 5.9 is a bad engine just hard to find in a 2001+ dakota. Its easy to find a 4.7 dakota and espically a cheap one with blown motor and swap to a better engine.

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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2803 on: March 19, 2017, 10:59:18 AM »
     ya yer sure right about there being a LOT more 4.7s compared to 5.9s.....hmmmmmm - does the hemi bolt up to both the 4.7 and 5.9 transmissions, or just to the 4.7?.....'cause I could totally get behind 'that' possibility....eventuality?...likely "solution".
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2804 on: March 19, 2017, 12:50:01 PM »
    Don't get a 4.7 unless you plan to swap it out.

    I don't know if the 4.7 shares the same bellhousing has the 3.9/5.2/5.9, but I believe the 4.7 comes with the 45RFE, and the 5.9 comes with the 46RE.  You may prefer one over the other.

    In the Dakota world the 2 door trucks are cheap (std cab and club cab) but the 4 door Quad Cabs hold a lot more value.  The Durangos are super cheap.  You can always get a V6 Dakota, then pick up a 5.9 Durango and swap it over, you can find them under $1k.

    For the Dakota you can also start with a 2wd truck to get it even cheaper.  The 2wd Dakota rear suspension already has a shackle flip, the spring mounts are lower on the frame for free lift, and 57" 2wd F150 springs are practically a bolt in upgrade.  The front frame rails on a 2wd do require a little more modification though.
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2805 on: March 19, 2017, 01:50:30 PM »
    For the Dakota you can also start with a 2wd truck to get it even cheaper.  The 2wd Dakota rear suspension already has a shackle flip, the spring mounts are lower on the frame for free lift, and 57" 2wd F150 springs are practically a bolt in upgrade.  The front frame rails on a 2wd do require a little more modification though.

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    « Reply #2806 on: March 19, 2017, 04:15:07 PM »
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2807 on: March 19, 2017, 09:29:36 PM »
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2808 on: March 19, 2017, 09:57:44 PM »
    Hey Sam,

    Just looking up info on wheels I reread the tire/wheel combo page and saw bud and the wheels you have on it.
    Are those aluminum 20x14's? Have you ever had any problems with them off road? And do you ever air down with them?
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2809 on: March 20, 2017, 09:09:45 AM »
    Don't get a 4.7 unless you plan to swap it out.

    I don't know if the 4.7 shares the same bellhousing has the 3.9/5.2/5.9, but I believe the 4.7 comes with the 45RFE, and the 5.9 comes with the 46RE.  You may prefer one over the other.

    In the Dakota world the 2 door trucks are cheap (std cab and club cab) but the 4 door Quad Cabs hold a lot more value.  The Durangos are super cheap.  You can always get a V6 Dakota, then pick up a 5.9 Durango and swap it over, you can find them under $1k.

    For the Dakota you can also start with a 2wd truck to get it even cheaper.  The 2wd Dakota rear suspension already has a shackle flip, the spring mounts are lower on the frame for free lift, and 57" 2wd F150 springs are practically a bolt in upgrade.  The front frame rails on a 2wd do require a little more modification though.

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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2810 on: March 20, 2017, 10:35:34 AM »
    You're going to kick Sam's tinkering disorder into overdrive again!!  ;)

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    Hey Sam,

    Just looking up info on wheels I reread the tire/wheel combo page and saw bud and the wheels you have on it.
    Are those aluminum 20x14's? Have you ever had any problems with them off road? And do you ever air down with them?


    no those are steel, but they are 20x14s.  There aren't a ton of wheel options for guys running rockwells, but the craftsmanship from the guys at Staz is fantastic.  They can lose some air pressure through the big o-ring seal over time but otherwise no complaints, but with the double bead locks off road these are hard to beat.  Off road I typically air down to about 8 psi, and back up to 30 psi on the street.
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2811 on: March 20, 2017, 04:59:53 PM »
    The LA/Magnum bellhousing is the same pattern as the sohc motors AND the gen3 HEMI.  I believe the SOHC and HEMI are identical pattern and depth for the engine to transmission mating.  The LA/Magnum has one less bellhousing bolt(top center) and a slightly different crank depth requiring either a spacer or different flexplate iirc(similar to the sbc/LS difference).  SOHC 4.7/3.7 transmission from all research i have done are 100% compatible with the HEMI although i wouldn't put one up to the 3.7 transmission.

    Another note on the 2wd Dakota is that there are oil pans that clear the front crossmember with the HEMI. One less thing to modify and then you can use a complete HEMI engine/transmission/t-case combination with a SAS up front.

    Here is the best HEMI swap thread i have found. http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75706
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    Re: 'BUD' - '78 W-950 Power Wagon ( time for somp'n diff'rnt )
    « Reply #2812 on: March 20, 2017, 06:46:53 PM »
    no those are steel, but they are 20x14s.  There aren't a ton of wheel options for guys running rockwells, but the craftsmanship from the guys at Staz is fantastic.  They can lose some air pressure through the big o-ring seal over time but otherwise no complaints, but with the double bead locks off road these are hard to beat.  Off road I typically air down to about 8 psi, and back up to 30 psi on the street.

    Thanks Sam!
    I emailed the guys at Staz, looking forward to seeing what they say!

    Also looking forward to your Dakota build! :)
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