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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2012, 09:12:54 PM »
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« Reply #101 on: January 22, 2012, 02:11:40 AM »
That's interesting. A few years back looking at the carb options on those small bolt pattern 2bbl intakes I thought that but never knew anyone who liked them. Seemed like good simple setup of a BBD with more solidity to it.

Yep, for what ever reason the old 2bbl ford motor craft carbs work great at most angles.  They have no power for the engine (i.e. not big enough for anything other than a small small block) but they work great.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #102 on: January 22, 2012, 02:12:28 AM »
PM sent.
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PM sent back and you should have money.  Yea, money!

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2012, 06:58:01 AM »
Yup money received ;D. Thank you again for your orders!!!
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« Reply #104 on: January 22, 2012, 02:48:10 PM »
Yup money received ;D. Thank you again for your orders!!!
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Whew.  I always worry about sending it to the wrong address.  Thanks again for everything!

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #105 on: January 22, 2012, 06:04:19 PM »
Yep, for what ever reason the old 2bbl ford motor craft carbs work great at most angles.  They have no power for the engine (i.e. not big enough for anything other than a small small block) but they work great.

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I am a firm beliver in the old 2bbl Motorcraft carbs. My old '75 F100 I used to have had one and the gas tank was always having crud knockin lose inside. Every once in awhile the bowl would fill up with crud and leave me stranded on the side of the road. All I had to do was pull the top of the carb and pick out the crud and I'd be back on my merry way.  :)
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2012, 07:53:08 PM »
I am a firm beliver in the old 2bbl Motorcraft carbs. My old '75 F100 I used to have had one and the gas tank was always having crud knockin lose inside. Every once in awhile the bowl would fill up with crud and leave me stranded on the side of the road. All I had to do was pull the top of the carb and pick out the crud and I'd be back on my merry way.  :)

Yep, I had one on an old 1969 Ford High Boy I had.  The truck had a 360 FE motor.  The carb was great on the truck off road or on my only problem was the engine seemed to have really small lungs.  I know there was more power to be had from the motor but, the carb just kept it from doing much.  It sure worked well in every environment I put the truck in.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2012, 02:30:09 PM »
I bought a new trailer yesterday to haul Christine around on. I still have the race trailer, the Big Tex flat bed and now this one. This is an election year and I expect fuel prices to skyrocket out of sight again this year as they have done in the past. It will be 1,200+ miles of driving for me and take over 18 hours to get there. Hauling the big flat bed I only get around 9 to 10 miles per gallon. This means at todays prices it will cost me $555.56 dollars one way. So a grand total of $1,111.12 round trip. I also have to make a slight detour on the way home and drive into Phoenix, AZ. With the new trailer it should be the same mileage but, a better fuel bill. It should cost me $357.14 one way for a grand total of $714.28 round trip. A savings of almost $400.00. This is considering todays fuel prices. Prices are sure to go up and the savings becomes more and more apparent. And this is just on one trip. Never mind the smaller trailer is easier to maneuver in cramped spaces. I have been wanting a smaller flat bed since I sold my old one. I should have kept that one.

The new trailer is made by Diamond C and is 22' long with 83" between the fenders.  All LED lighting and is rated for 10,000 lbs.  The trailer is really light for the size weighing only 2,500 lbs.  This will work well for the longer trips I make.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #108 on: January 27, 2012, 06:48:16 PM »
Brake lines showed up today.  Next up are the frame boxing plates from Jungle and then the new steering box from PSC.  I am just waiting on some more money and parts.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2012, 09:30:25 PM »
Today the plates for the frame boxing came in. I took them up to the shop along with the brake lines and started a punch list of what is left. To be ready for recovery duties this June I still need the following:
1. Hydraulic assisted steering.
2. The steering arm and the drag link for the cross over steering.
3. Rear axle shock mounts.
4. Shocks front and rear.
5. Fly wheel and clutch.
6. One more set of 9/16" lug nuts.
7. New wind shield and rear window.
8. Rear gears and locker or spool.
9. Drive shafts.
10. Bumpers front and rear and spare tire mount.
11. Full hydraulic steering arms for the Beater. Then I can put the steering arms from the Beater to Christine.

Other than that I think that should do it.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #110 on: February 2, 2012, 03:31:35 PM »
The list is getting smaller.
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« Reply #111 on: February 2, 2012, 06:54:26 PM »
The list is getting smaller.
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Yeah, it is.  Today my new Macs custom tie downs showed up.   They really have stepped up their game.  The bag os a padded duffle bag.  Very nice equipment.

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« Reply #112 on: February 17, 2012, 10:22:10 PM »
Today was a slow day on the truck so, no new pictures. I had started out the day with a plan. The plan was to pull the motor, install my new brake lines and get the frame boxed for the steering. I ended up hanging the new lines, pulling the rear axle so I could get the perches burned in, and that was it. Instead I ended up swapping two sets of tires, mounting, and balancing them, working on some rear brakes on a chevy van, and moving tools from one box to another one. Lots of work got done just not the kind of work I was wanting to get done.

I did order some new shock mounts for the rear axle and a new PSC steering box that is set up for hydraulic assist.  A little bummed I did not get much done on the truck.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #113 on: February 26, 2012, 10:21:07 PM »
1. Hydraulic assisted steering.  I have now ordered the steering box and it should be here this week.
2. The steering arm and the drag link for the cross over steering.
3. Rear axle shock mounts.  Ordered and received.
4. Shocks front and rear.  The shock company is now back in business.  Just waiting for them to catch up with their back orders.
5. Fly wheel and clutch.
6. One more set of 9/16" lug nuts.
7. New wind shield and rear window.
8. Rear gears and locker or spool.
9. Drive shafts.
10. Bumpers front and rear and spare tire mount.  I am taking the truck to a friends this weekend for these and some other stuff I just don't have time for.
11. Full hydraulic steering arms for the Beater. Then I can put the steering arms from the Beater to Christine.

This weekend is going to be a long haul in just a couple of days.  I am loading Christine up and taking her to a friends house in Norther Utah.  He will be building the front and rear bumpers along with the spare tire carrier.  He has also agreed to help me with some of the smaller things.  Mounting the shocks front and rear, fuel cell, finish the brakes, rear gears and locker, and maybe some other smaller stuff.  This time of year he really slows down and could use the money.  Not to mention I could use the help.

I will try and keep y'all updated as things go along.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #114 on: February 27, 2012, 03:42:56 PM »
Sounds great!!
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« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2012, 09:03:06 PM »
Sounds great!!
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Please don't forget the Pics ;D.

I'll try and get some.  My buddy is doing the work from here on out.  I have too much stuff coming into the shop that is demanding my time as of late.  I am going to be picking up a Hennesey Viper the week after next.  That will be a good project for the shop.

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« Reply #116 on: March 1, 2012, 08:02:46 PM »
Wow...
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #117 on: March 2, 2012, 06:47:40 AM »
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What are you doing to the Hennesey Viper?
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« Reply #118 on: March 4, 2012, 01:31:38 PM »
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What are you doing to the Hennesey Viper?
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Well, a friend of mine picked it up from a dealer and he has now had it for about six to eight months now.  Turns out that he never checked the oil in the engine.  Turns out either the dealer did not add enough when they serviced it or it leaked or something.  Anyways the motor was low on oil and he ran it that way.  It has a ticking in the motor now and I am going to take it to the shop and see what the problem is.  Best case senerio maybe just some head work.  Worst case he may need an engine.

The trip to Logan Utah was a rough one.  I tried to leave and make it up there before this last snow storm.  Turns out I was a few hours later leaving than I wanted to be and hit the storm from Price Utah all the way to Logan.  There was not a bunch of snow that fell but the winds were high and the drifts were deep.  I ended up stuck on the road and could not go forward any more with the truck on the trailer.  So, I thought I would just wait for a plow truck to come by and then I could hopefully get my momentum back and head the rest of the way up.  I waited four hours and no plow trucks came by.  I ended up backing the truck and trailer off the mountain about three miles or so on the winding mountain road I was on.  I then took an hour nap in the Cabela's parking lot.  On the way up I was only able to manage 11.2 mpg and on the return trip with just an empty trailer I got 17.5 mpg.  What a difference bad weather makes.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #119 on: April 1, 2012, 08:34:49 PM »
Small update.  Since I dropped off Christine in Utah she has had Jungles frame plates installed on both sides, and the old locked up 400 has been pulled.  I have some tubing there now and the bumpers will be getting made here soon.  I need to get a new clutch, throw out bearing, and the fly wheel surfaced at least and maybe even a new fly wheel as well.  Next payday I hope to have the cross over steering ordered and the new steering shaft ordered as well.  Then I need to get the headers ordered and sent up so we can have the new 440 installed.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #120 on: April 2, 2012, 02:52:55 PM »
Where are you getting the X over parts? Steve at OffRoad Design has a dodge kit & tell him I sent ya.
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« Reply #121 on: April 6, 2012, 09:59:40 PM »
Where are you getting the X over parts? Steve at OffRoad Design has a dodge kit & tell him I sent ya.
Jim

That is where I am getting them from.  The folks at Off Road Design helped me a bunch on the Ramcharger build.  I bought a bunch of parts from them on that build.  Everything from the cross over steering, to doubler T case to the NP 205.  They are an awesome group of fellas,

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« Reply #122 on: April 7, 2012, 01:42:17 AM »
Just to let you know on the 400 to 440 swap, you may need a different brake booster. You may already know this, but I'll shoot it out anyway. With the 440 being a raised block (RB) engine over a 400 (B) engine, there is a height difference. If the truck is a factory 400 truck, then you will, more than likely, have a standard brake booster. The 440 will not fit with this booster, the valve cover will be in the way. You will need a 3/4 or 1 ton brake booster and master cylinder. These have a smaller diameter, but longer body. A body lift would work to make the clearance required, but I would go for the booster swap.
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« Reply #123 on: April 8, 2012, 07:39:07 PM »
Just to let you know on the 400 to 440 swap, you may need a different brake booster. You may already know this, but I'll shoot it out anyway. With the 440 being a raised block (RB) engine over a 400 (B) engine, there is a height difference. If the truck is a factory 400 truck, then you will, more than likely, have a standard brake booster. The 440 will not fit with this booster, the valve cover will be in the way. You will need a 3/4 or 1 ton brake booster and master cylinder. These have a smaller diameter, but longer body. A body lift would work to make the clearance required, but I would go for the booster swap.

I had heard of this before but, it is always welcome.  At this point I am unsure of which way I am going to go.  If I decide on the body lift does anyone know how high of a lift I would need?

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #124 on: April 9, 2012, 04:34:26 AM »
Another thought on the brake booster is go to the hydro conversion like Dodge & chevy did in the late 90 early 2000s.
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« Reply #125 on: April 9, 2012, 10:36:11 PM »
Another thought on the brake booster is go to the hydro conversion like Dodge & chevy did in the late 90 early 2000s.
Jim

Does the hydro boost work off of the power steering system some how?  If so, then would it be wise to install a hydro boost set up with the hydraulic assisted steering set up?  I am concerned that while steering I may loose brake pressure.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #126 on: April 10, 2012, 04:11:51 AM »
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Check out Sams thread starting 1/2 way down on this page;
http://ramchargercentral.com/rcs-tds-durangos-etc/%27blu-oxx%27-%2793-rcle-4x4/650/

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« Reply #127 on: April 14, 2012, 08:35:16 PM »
Small update time.  On Thursday I placed an order with Summit Racing for a borgeson steering shaft, and another order with Off Road Design for a cross over steering set up.  Summit Racing has already delivered as the shaft is at the builders house.  I also sent an email to Chris from FOA Shocks for a full set of shocks.  I will report back when more parts show up.

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« Reply #128 on: April 17, 2012, 12:18:12 AM »
Hey y'all I was wondering if anyone knew if there is a difference between a fly wheel from a 400 big block and a 440 raised block.  Is there a difference between them?  Can I have the fly wheel from the 400 re surfaced and use it on the 440?

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« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2012, 12:37:30 PM »
Small update. My buddy has the new clutch now and Off Road Design has made the parts I was needing. Funny thing about Off Road Design, I had ordered the parts two weeks ago and they did not charge my account until they were ready to ship. Honest folks there for sure. Problem was the card number I gave them when I had ordered the parts was no longer any good. My bank sent me a new card during the time and the old one was no longer any good. So, a quick phone call today to straighten everything out and they are now on their way. I also was able to order the headers for the new motor from Summit Racing. Bad news is that they don't stock the headers I wanted. So, they have to get them from Doug Thorley and then they will send them out to my buddies place. The FOA shocks should be getting built now as well.

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« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2012, 08:06:24 PM »
I believe that is where I'll get my crossover steering setup from. I'd like to see some pics!
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« Reply #131 on: April 28, 2012, 06:53:18 PM »
I am really close to burning this truck to the ground.  First, summit racing called me back saying that they cannot get the headers I want.  No big problem there except that doug thorley also quit making them as well.  So there is no way to get the headers at all.  Okay, so I will just reuse the exhaust manifolds.  Now, the 440 I have to replace the 400 will not bolt up to the clutch.  This truck has fought me the entire way and I am starting to get really angry with it.  I posted up in the vehicle help section but, wh boils down to is the new pilot bushing does not fit the 440 crank.  It fits perfectly to the old 400 crank but not the 440 crank.  Does anyone have any part numbers, or knowledge about this swap?  I am dangerously close to turning the whole thing into a pile of scrap.  I am at my wits end with this damned truck.

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« Reply #132 on: April 28, 2012, 07:19:19 PM »
LT, can you post up some pics of both cranks?  In theory the pilot busing should fit both, unless of coourse the 440 crank isn't drilled for a stick.  Some weren't - auto-only from the factory.  Can you post up some pics? 

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« Reply #133 on: April 28, 2012, 07:27:25 PM »
The crank probably is not finished machined. Only cranks that where finished machined for a pilot bearing were manual trans engines. Some cranks weren't even drilled deep enough for the pilot shaft. Make sure yours is deep enough, if it is then just turn the bushing down to fit or buy a bushing that is made for an unfinished crank. They used to make them but I don' t remember who made them. Oh ya, don't give up just yet, wait at least until you invested more money in the truck than you can get back out of it. That way you can't stop.   ;D Hope this helps.

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« Reply #134 on: April 28, 2012, 08:31:52 PM »
The truck is in northern Utah right now at a friends shop.  I got too busy with other projects and needed this truck done in time.  So, I really cannot take any pictures of it at this time.  However, it is exactly like what was already explained.  The crank is not drilled for the manual tyranny, and it sounds like I will have to have some of the input shaft on the tyranny trimmed off to make the whole thing work together.  Also, in the vehicle help section a member explained that there are other options.  Their is a bearing that fits the input shat diameter of the torque converter that will help with the swap.  I am going to forward all this information to by buddy in hopes he can make better sense of it.  I cannot see what he is talking about so I hope this helps him.  If I had the truck here I would be really tempted to torch the sucker.  At this point it would have been easier to swap my big block chevy into the rails and use a th 400 tyranny.  I can't believe this thing is so difficult using all dodge parts.  Really, really frustrating.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #135 on: April 29, 2012, 06:30:49 AM »
Do you think a Drill jig could be machined to bolt onto the end of the crank & pilot the correct drill to drill it deeper? A GOOD HD mag drill could be fastened onto the flywheel & used to drill the hole deeper & then reamed to the correct size. Is there any non automotive machine shops in the area? They might have the HD mag drill & bits & reamers.
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« Reply #136 on: April 29, 2012, 07:56:33 AM »
check this out - this is a roller bearing that...if I'm reading it right...is designed to fit a "auto-only" crank that has the I.D. for a 4-speed input shaft that has been slightly shortened.  http://brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PB5300&cat=16

Pretty slick...if that is what's wrong.

If your crank does actually have the "4-speed" hole, and it's just that the brass bushing doesn't fit, then I would contact Brewers and tell them what's going on, and ask them how to fix it, or I think NAPA sells a slightly thinner brass bushing.  Sometimes those brass bushings are a really, really tight squeeze in the pilot hole.  Maybe try a 'bigger hammer', and have another brass bushing on reserve.  If it goes in, and is too tight against the 4-speed input shaft, then the shop could just slow and carefully sand oout the bushing until it's puuurfect.  Those sandpaper slapper drill bits work good doing that.

That's about the limit of my brain on this one.  Don't dispair - you'll get there {cool}

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #137 on: April 29, 2012, 12:44:12 PM »
Thanks for everything y'all.  I have forwarded this link and another to my buddy who is working on the truck.  I am very grateful to have found this site.  Thank you all for your willingness to share your knowledge with others.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #138 on: May 3, 2012, 01:34:50 PM »
As of yesterday afternoon the cross over steering in installed and the new clutch is now on the back of the motor.  And yet, there are still some difficulties along the way.  The latest is that Off Road Design did not send the right nuts for the studs.  No biggie but, we are also not able to make contact with another individual who has another 440 that we want to have.  We have called and left a few messages but, so far no return phone call.  This build has been a little tough for us.  I swear it is almost enough to make me want to change brands.  Nothing has been too easy, every item has had some small hang up.  But, we are soldering through and will get this truck done.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #139 on: May 3, 2012, 02:38:20 PM »
Rob,
Remember anyone can build a chevy but only the best can build a Dodge ;D.
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #140 on: May 3, 2012, 03:15:52 PM »
Rob,
Remember anyone can build a chevy but only the best can build a Dodge ;D.
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #141 on: May 6, 2012, 12:12:53 PM »
Well we have now had another hang up.  Nothing major but, my buddy found someone who wanted the old 400.  The new owner picked it up and my buddy forgot to get the motor mounts off of the 400.  So, now he has to drive about a hundred miles to get them back.  It could have been much worse but, still a small hassle.  We also were able to get in touch with the fella who has the other 440.  I ended up picking it up for $600.00.  It was a good deal because it had a new intake manifold (which is still new in the box), new DUI ignition (also still new in the box), and a set of headers (also new in the box).  We will end up installing all of these parts on the truck maybe even this week.

The cross over steering looks great and the clutch is also looking great as well.  Problem with the cross over steering is that there is a small block that goes under the steering arm.  The studs end up being a little longer so that they can pass through the block and the arm.  My concern is that even under normal everyday driving there is a lot of single sheer pressure and they may snap.  So, a hydraulic ram is probably going to have to go on just to help the steering so there is not so much pressure on those studs.  The studs are made by ARP and are good quality but......

I am also searching for all new wood for the bed floor, all new hardware, and a new fuel cell.  I think I have found where I will get the bed wood and the hardware from.  A place called Bruce Horkey's.  They make some really pretty products and they also seem to have everything covered for hardware, wood protection, and even bed covers.  The fuel cell will probably end up being a Jaz cell from Summit Racing.  The fuel cell needs to be 30 gallons or more.  440's aren't known for sipping fuel.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #142 on: May 6, 2012, 01:04:08 PM »
The fuel cell will probably end up being a Jaz cell from Summit Racing.  The fuel cell needs to be 30 gallons or more.  440's aren't known for sipping fuel.

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boy that's for sure.  Have you considered 'converting' the chassis under the bed to accept a 35 gallon RC tank?  Just a thought...not sure if it's been brought up before...
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #143 on: May 6, 2012, 10:45:50 PM »
boy that's for sure.  Have you considered 'converting' the chassis under the bed to accept a 35 gallon RC tank?  Just a thought...not sure if it's been brought up before...

Yep, we looked at doing that exact thing.  Problem was finding a Ramcharger fuel tank and all the cross members.  For some reason they are a little tough to find in northern Utah. 

My poor, poor buddy.  For those of you who may not know just how hard he is working on this stupid truck let me tell you.  Today my buddy went down and picked up my new engine.  The new engine looks to be in much better shape than the one I dropped off so, he is going to take the clutch back off the motor I took up, re assemble the new motor, and then install it into Christine.  The motor only had 5,000 miles on the short block.  The heads were brand new rebuilt with the largest valves stuffed in that could fit.  The intake manifold is an Eldebrock performer that is new in the box.  The same goes for the DUI ignition, Sanderson block hugger headers, Be Cool water pump, ARP intake and valve cover bolts, valve covers, intake, valve cover gaskets, amd starter.  Then, it looks like I am going to purchase all new wood, hardware, and assorted stuff for the bed floor.  Then the new fuel cell will go in the bed.  Then it is up to my buddy as to what he is going to want next.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #144 on: May 7, 2012, 04:12:36 AM »
There's a guy here on RCC that is parting out 2 92 RCs & he should have the X members. I know the tanks are sold but maybe after market replacement has a listing.
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« Reply #145 on: May 7, 2012, 10:09:03 AM »
and are you looking for a mechanical or electric fuel pump tank?
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #146 on: May 9, 2012, 08:37:03 PM »
For right now we are sticking with the jaz fuel cell idea.  Reason being that it is going to be very easy to install and we already have one coming and it solves the problem with the fill neck.  Overall just easier, if the time comes then I will look more into the ramcharger fuel tank.  With the truck being a step side it seems a little tough to make a stock tank work like I wanted.  Next up is the bed wood.  I have found two places that have piqued my interest.  One is Holley's in minesota and the other is called the Dode Connection.  I want all new wood and all new hardware as well.  Hardware will most likely be stainless because I am sick of rust.  Does anyone have another ideas I maybe over looking?

Jungle, thanks for the PM's I really appreciate all the help I can get.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #147 on: May 10, 2012, 09:49:32 AM »
stainless will still eventually get nasty and rust, especially when constantly exposed to the UV and air.  What I'd suggest is coating the stainless hardware when you also coat the wood, or painting the stainless stuff with a spray clear.  Every little bit helps.  I think you can also get aluminum or chromed nuts and bolts - just an idea....but I'd still coat them too  ;)
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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #148 on: May 10, 2012, 09:03:17 PM »
Thanks for the heads up on the stainless.  I will put a clear coat on them for sure.  Fuel cell is on the way to my buddies shop and should be there in a couple of days.  I am getting a little excited because most of the parts are bought.  I still need the rear gears, locker, drive shafts, batteries, KC daylighters, and the wood for the bed.  Getting closer.

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Re: 1977 Dodge Power Wagon recovery/hunting truck.
« Reply #149 on: May 12, 2012, 05:50:32 PM »
The fuel cell showed up today and wouldn't you know it, it came dented.  Always one step forward two steps backward.  The dent does not affect me being able to use it but, it is a little unsightly.  I guess it matches the rest of the truck.  Beat and battered.  Lol.  The engine is getting assembled now and should be ready to go into the rails tonight.  We are using the rv motor I took up and then using all the new parts that came with the other motor.  So, it will basically be brand new from the short block up.  I can't wait to have the engine between the rails again.

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