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Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« on: December 15, 2011, 04:18:14 PM »
K my budget is being built up and i want some info from ppl about either gettin a 05 dodge cummins or doin a conversion swap into my ramcharger. just wanted to know what ppl thought about my choices any info is welcome

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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 04:35:44 PM »
Use a first gen CTD to do the swap. The 96 up can be tricky to wire in.  ;)
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 04:38:29 PM »
Those are two completely different vehicles.  You need to decide what you want - a cool SUV but that is older and probably noisy and less conveniences but much cheaper and you can have "fun"/off-road it , or a big modern truck that can do serious work, has modern conveniences, and will have much less maintenance (if you buy low mileage) but costs a whole lot more.
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 05:12:50 PM »
one of each, truck for "work" and cummins RC for everything else.
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 05:55:12 PM »
Use a first gen CTD to do the swap. The 96 up can be tricky to wire in.  ;)

You mean 98.5, the 24 valve engines?  None of the 12 valves have more than a couple wires for anything.  Even the automatic transmissions only had a couple wires, and the hydraulic ones had two...iirc.
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 08:17:37 PM »
You mean 98.5, the 24 valve engines?  None of the 12 valves have more than a couple wires for anything.  Even the automatic transmissions only had a couple wires, and the hydraulic ones had two...iirc.

Yes that's true, don't you have to find new motor mounts if you use a CTD from after 93 though also?
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 12:42:46 PM »
Power and grounds to the ECM, and you're good to go on the electronic engines also ;D

Too much is put into the electronic engines, but keep in mind, these are put in damn near everything; everything needed for the engine to run is right there on the side of the engine
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2011, 06:52:15 PM »
well i love cummins ever since i drove a couple i wanted my ramcharger to be converted over but i also love the 05 dodge cummins 2500 body style id love to have my ramcharger with a cummins but i dont got the equipment or extra hands to help ;( the r/c was my first truck so shes my baby ive just been debatin on gettin a first gen donors for the ramcharger or buy a new dodge cummins ;/ hmmmm

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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 06:59:13 PM »
the two BIG differences between your choices are cost vs time.  If you have time, LOVE to turn a wrench, don't mind some mechanical and electrical voodoo, have a lot of time, want something very simple and unique, have a lot of time, and don't mind folks at the fuel pumps frequently admiring your rig and asking you "if it came that way"...and have a lot of time, then definitely go for the conversion. :)
If, however, you don't have a lot of time, don't like strangers asking you about your rig, don't have much time, don't like to turn a wrench, and don't like to mess with wiring, and have more fundage than time, then definitely go for the newer rig that needs 'nothing'  ;).

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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 07:22:58 PM »
the two BIG differences between your choices are cost vs time.  If you have time, LOVE to turn a wrench, don't mind some mechanical and electrical voodoo, have a lot of time, want something very simple and unique, have a lot of time, and don't mind folks at the fuel pumps frequently admiring your rig and asking you "if it came that way"...and have a lot of time, then definitely go for the conversion. :)
If, however, you don't have a lot of time, don't like strangers asking you about your rig, don't have much time, don't like to turn a wrench, and don't like to mess with wiring, and have more fundage than time, then definitely go for the newer rig that needs 'nothing'  ;).

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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 07:56:08 PM »
Yes that's true, don't you have to find new motor mounts if you use a CTD from after 93 though also?

You would need motor mounts from a first gen cummins, yes.
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 11:08:12 AM »
the two BIG differences between your choices are cost vs time.  If you have time, LOVE to turn a wrench, don't mind some mechanical and electrical voodoo, have a lot of time, want something very simple and unique, have a lot of time, and don't mind folks at the fuel pumps frequently admiring your rig and asking you "if it came that way"...and have a lot of time, then definitely go for the conversion. :)
If, however, you don't have a lot of time, don't like strangers asking you about your rig, don't have much time, don't like to turn a wrench, and don't like to mess with wiring, and have more fundage than time, then definitely go for the newer rig that needs 'nothing'  ;).

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definelty love havin ppl ask me about my vehicles or wats in them :) loved every mintue wen ppl asked me wat kind of stereo system i got so id love it wen ppl ask me about my rig hmmm. wiring i dont mind cause i wire my own stereo equipment. love turnin wrenchs til somethin breaks or falls  :P time i got couple hours everyday til summer then i got weekends plus couple hours aday.. hmmmm if i buy the first gen i own it if i buy the newer cummin i owe payments hmmmm..... love both but i think ill have more fun with the ramcharger and customizing it the way i want :P just wish i had a shop so i could tear it down and do more work without havin stuff stolen off my driveway.. thanks sam i think ill keep my r/c and buy a donor cause i can use the donor for some body parts like a new driver door :P thanks for all ur guys opinions if u got any more u can post :)

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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2011, 12:32:26 PM »
sweet - go for it dude {cool}.  If ya gots the 'resources' then making yer own unique rig that you can use and not have a car payment on is....awesome  ;)
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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 10:54:23 AM »
sweet - go for it dude {cool}.  If ya gots the 'resources' then making yer own unique rig that you can use and not have a car payment on is....awesome  ;)
  now i gotta find a cummins donor ;/ not sure where to find one but i dont wanna pay 4000 n up for a cummins if im gonna tear it apart for parts

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Re: Cummins or Cummins swap in Ramcharger
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 02:47:05 AM »
Yea I have my 01 CTD. 2wd but slightly modded. We have our 89 RC 318TBI and still on the fence about going 360mag or diesel. If a couple more things line up, I might be permanent pulling the plugs on it.  ;D

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