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"Quiet" 4" muffler?
« on: March 29, 2008, 06:17:30 PM »
Folks,

I've now got two 6BT-powered rigs (the tugboat '93, and the '78 Ramcharger trail rig), and I just got a muffler from the local Kenworth dealer for the tugboat.  It is 45" long, and appears to be just right.

 

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This muffler is from a company called ACRAFIT, and it has a wall dead center within it that forces the exhaust (and sound) to go through the perforations verse just straight through.  I cannot help but believe this will be great for noise cancellation.  Has anyone else seen such a muffler, and if so do you like the noise level, and did you notice a performance difference?
I figure the longer the muffler is the better it will perform, right?...more surface area = more perforations for cross-flow = less restriction in flow...and an increase in performance potential, ja?
I have heard of the Donaldson line but I cannot get any info on what it looks like on the inside and/or how it 'sounds'.

Now, I'm wanting to install a similar muffler on the Ramcharger, which has a lot less wheelbase to work with, so I'm looking for a similar muffler...but is about 2-3 feet long.  I may be able to get this 45" monster to fit in the RC's chassis, and if so, bonus.  This muffler was $75 bucks at my local KW shop - not a bad price, and I'll be happy to get another one just like it for the RC unless I can find one a bit shorter.

Anyone?

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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #1 on: April 1, 2008, 07:08:05 PM »
    if quiet non straight through is what u desire how about a pair of smaller 3" tractor mufflers (they look just like that) but smaller. y it out into duals.
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #2 on: April 6, 2008, 10:28:00 PM »
    yes they are super quiet.i had straight 4in  pipe. then later added the 4 in magnaflow flow through muffler,and it was almost too quiet, couldnt even tell it was running
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #3 on: May 1, 2008, 12:33:21 PM »
    Donaldson and Nelson offer several versions of that muffler...one has the baffle, the other doesn't.  I believe there is only a little difference in CFM between them.

    It will either be very quiet or it will drone...I have heard of both happening with the big truck muffs...
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #4 on: June 5, 2008, 11:39:07 AM »
    So how does that muffler sound?   Do you have a part number?

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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #5 on: June 5, 2008, 02:27:33 PM »
    After doing some research on that particular muffler I discovered it isn't the best flowing design so I took it back.  I'm going to go with this: Magnaflow #12773
    http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MPE%2D12773&N=700+4294922710+4294891681+4294788252+4294788220+4294783146+115&autoview=sku
    I'll hopefully have the RC up and running in about 2 months so I'll know then how it sounds.  What I like about it is it's a straight-through design with internal sound deadening material (not just perforrated baffeling) and it's a 'diesel' muffler.
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #6 on: June 5, 2008, 05:09:38 PM »
    Donaldson - M090544

    Nelson - 86131M

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    Donaldson - M085171

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    I have a Magnaflow 30", 4" in/out on my truck...very mellow.
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #7 on: June 5, 2008, 05:14:04 PM »
    After doing some research on that particular muffler I discovered it isn't the best flowing design so I took it back.  I'm going to go with this: Magnaflow #12773
    http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MPE%2D12773&N=700+4294922710+4294891681+4294788252+4294788220+4294783146+115&autoview=sku
    I'll hopefully have the RC up and running in about 2 months so I'll know then how it sounds.  What I like about it is it's a straight-through design with internal sound deadening material (not just perforrated baffeling) and it's a 'diesel' muffler.
    - M2

    I just did some checking and you can order that Magnaflow from Amazon.com for the same price, but no shipping/handling charge.   Not bad!
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #8 on: June 5, 2008, 06:15:00 PM »
    on a similar note, has any one seen a 4"-3" dual muffler? im finding one single magnaflow that fits the description.

    something along these lines
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #9 on: June 6, 2008, 10:07:03 AM »
    I just did some checking and you can order that Magnaflow from Amazon.com for the same price, but no shipping/handling charge.   Not bad!

    After looking on Amazon, I check Ebay.  I found a seller there that had them listed (with free shipping) for $115 buy it now or make offer.  I made an offer for $85 and they accepted it, so $85 shipped. 

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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 10:44:26 PM »
    After looking on Amazon, I check Ebay.  I found a seller there that had them listed (with free shipping) for $115 buy it now or make offer.  I made an offer for $85 and they accepted it, so $85 shipped. 

    Score!

      It arrived today and looks really nice.  I also ordered a 4" cast turbo elbow, a 2nd gen 4" downpipe, and a 2nd gen 4" tailpipe which should all be here in the next couple days.  Once it all gets here (and I get the truck out of the paint booth) I'll take it to the muffler shop down the street and have them set it all up.   I'll have a complete 4" system for under $350 and it won't have 2 big 90 degree bends in it.  Might have to kink the downpipe just a tad to clear the TC, but I don't think that will hurt too much.   I'll post pics when it's done.
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #11 on: June 23, 2008, 05:58:25 PM »
    Max, I'm running a 4 inch straight through Magnaflow, that's about 12 inches long on my RCC, and its almost too quiet. I picked it up from Rip at http://www.sourceautomotive.biz

    With the 4 inch pipe and the bend around the Tcase, and the 4 inch tailpipe, I didn't have much room left for a muffler, and the 12inch Magaflow worked perfect.
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    Re: "Quiet" 4" muffler?
    « Reply #12 on: June 23, 2008, 11:26:03 PM »
    Fred, the case is 12" long?  Wow I thought I'd need the big 30" job - maybe I can get away with the smaller unit - like you said it'd be a lot easier to mount.  Hmmmm.....
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